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29-10-2012, 12:53 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 06:03 AM)Dom Wrote:  But it is certainly not the reason why I don't believe. (And please note, I said I don't believe. I didn't even say I don't believe in god. That's because I don't believe in science either. If I believe anything, it's that we don't know shit.)

I'm with Dom, I don't believe in "belief". The concept is useless at best and counterproductive at worst.

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29-10-2012, 03:07 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
Belief is just short hand for saying yes this piece of information or idea is true.

Disbelief is the not true position.

I wish we had words to describe the between positions.

The things that annoy me is that people think their identity lies in what information the hold to be true and not true.

And that people accept things with out investigating them first.

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29-10-2012, 03:46 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:07 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  Belief is just short hand for saying yes this piece of information or idea is true.

Disbelief is the not true position.

I wish we had words to describe the between positions.

The things that annoy me is that people think their identity lies in what information the hold to be true and not true.

And that people accept things with out investigating them first.

“Very few men have leisure to examine, or fortitude to analyse, the objects of their habitual veneration, their blind attachment, or their traditional fears.” - D'holbach

Belief is saying: I think this to be true, so much that other factors do not matter.

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29-10-2012, 03:52 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:46 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(29-10-2012 03:07 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  Belief is just short hand for saying yes this piece of information or idea is true.

Disbelief is the not true position.

I wish we had words to describe the between positions.

The things that annoy me is that people think their identity lies in what information the hold to be true and not true.

And that people accept things with out investigating them first.

“Very few men have leisure to examine, or fortitude to analyse, the objects of their habitual veneration, their blind attachment, or their traditional fears.” - D'holbach

Belief is saying: I think this to be true, so much that other factors do not matter.

No, that's blind belief.

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29-10-2012, 03:54 PM (This post was last modified: 29-10-2012 03:57 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:46 PM)Dom Wrote:  Belief is saying: I think this to be true, so much that other factors do not matter.

Belief is bullshit.

(29-10-2012 03:52 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  No, that's blind belief.

Irrespective of any eye exam.

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29-10-2012, 03:56 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(29-10-2012 03:46 PM)Dom Wrote:  Belief is saying: I think this to be true, so much that other factors do not matter.

Belief is bullshit.

Yeah!

It is that word by itself that turns me off religion.

Belief is conviction of the truth of something without facts. It has always meant to me that you assume it to be true just willy nilly.

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29-10-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:56 PM)Dom Wrote:  Belief is conviction of the truth of something without facts. It has always meant to me that you assume it to be true just willy nilly.

Many a theist take it a step further and become convinced in the truth of something through conveniently ignoring contradicting evidence.

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29-10-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 03:56 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(29-10-2012 03:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Belief is bullshit.

Belief is conviction of the truth ...

Belief is bullshit.

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29-10-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
(29-10-2012 04:16 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(29-10-2012 03:56 PM)Dom Wrote:  Belief is conviction of the truth ...

Belief is bullshit.

I don't believe you.

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29-10-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: So, you are an atheist.
I can't believe you guys are arguing about this.

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