Social constructivism vs Positivism
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30-12-2012, 08:36 PM
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
Hey, fst.

Even if this is true, it doesn't negate social constructivism, it just extends it to other animals.

Crows are pretty remarkable. If they have higher cognitive ability it would be cool. I'm reasonably certain that they don't have anything even approaching syntactical language (and the advent of syntactical language really is the thing that changed everything for humans). But again, it says nothing about social constructivism.

There's a lot of information coming in about language ability in other animals. I'm very interested about it in terms of how it relates to memetic theory (the hows and whys of language evolution are pretty controversial, but I'm partial to the meme-gene co-evolution theory myself). But nothing even remotely suggests that other animals are where we are yet (even interesting things like bite-force have explained differences in brain capacity among primates).

If I ever wind up having a conversation with a crow about the nature of existence and the existential crisis that is finite life, then I'll smile pretty wide Cool

But I'll still be a social constructivist Cool

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31-12-2012, 09:13 PM
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
I was afraid this was going to happen it's going to boil down to subjectivity.

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01-01-2013, 01:33 AM
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Hey, fst.

Sorry. What exactly is going to boil down to subjectivity? I don't understand what you mean.

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01-01-2013, 03:57 PM (This post was last modified: 01-01-2013 07:16 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
What I mean is that to understand constructivism, it seems you have to start with the why in which words are subjectively assigned meanings in each persons mind, and how they interpret world. That is to say that each brain interprets sensory differently, from sight, smell, heat, pressure, color all differently.

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01-01-2013, 07:05 PM
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
Hey, fst.

Sorry, but the grammatical errors in that post made it impossible for me to follow your thought. Could you try again please?

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01-01-2013, 07:30 PM (This post was last modified: 01-01-2013 07:54 PM by fstratzero.)
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
(01-01-2013 07:05 PM)Ghost Wrote:  Hey, fst.

Sorry, but the grammatical errors in that post made it impossible for me to follow your thought. Could you try again please?

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02-01-2013, 07:40 AM
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Hey, fst.

OK. Please try again.

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05-01-2013, 04:11 PM
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Are there any mind independent objects in constructivism?

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06-01-2013, 11:14 PM
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Hey, fst.

Please make your questions a little more specific. It helps me answer more effectively if I know what I'm responding to. Right now I think I have it, but I may be misunderstanding your jargon.

I think the way to answer your question is this. Everything is mind independent.

I don't know If independent is the right word, because there's certainly a relationship; one of mediation. But as far as I know, the universe exists without the mind.

Everything IN your mind is a construction.

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07-01-2013, 12:27 PM
RE: Social constructivism vs Positivism
What other knowledge is viable, or as correct as science?

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