Sodomy - why is it wrong?
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03-12-2013, 01:22 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
Its not wrong just disappointing, smooth bore no texture
Porn made it out to be so special. Reality is its tight for 2 seconds then meh...anticlimax Number 1 is more fun Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I". |
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03-12-2013, 01:35 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(03-12-2013 01:22 AM)sporehux Wrote: Its not wrong just disappointing, smooth bore no texture ![]() ![]() |
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03-12-2013, 01:53 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
Potatoe patatoe
Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I". |
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03-12-2013, 02:16 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(02-12-2013 08:24 PM)Cathym112 Wrote: My question is. Why is sodomy wrong? What is it about Sodomy that god supposedly found so objectionable? (he is cool with rape though)Where do you get the idea that oral and anal sex between married heteros is immoral? |
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03-12-2013, 03:50 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(03-12-2013 02:16 AM)alpha male Wrote: Where do you get the idea that oral and anal sex between married heteros is immoral? Christianity: The Pope for one. Humanae Vitae re-affirmed the Roman Catholic idea that all sexual acts are to respect the unitive and procreative significance of sexual intercourse. Anal and oral sex are intrinsically sterile, they have no procreative dimension and they have no unitive dimension.[1] Islam: Cursed is the one who approaches his wife in her rectum[2] Judaism: Oral and anal sex are permitted but the ejaculation must occur in the vagina (see Sefer Kedushah; Chapter 21; Halacha 9) |
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03-12-2013, 04:01 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
Christianity seems to hold on to some idea of sex only as a means to reproduce. That's why sodomy is bad, that's why masturbating is bad, homosexuality is bad, and contraceptives are bad. They are really scared of sex, and nudity, but realized it must occur, so they minimize it's use to a utilitarian thing. That's the root of it all.
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03-12-2013, 06:31 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(02-12-2013 10:31 PM)Chippy Wrote:(02-12-2013 08:24 PM)Cathym112 Wrote: My question is. Why is sodomy wrong? Fair point. I'm curious though...where in my OP did I mention that this was limited to Christians? In fact, I believe the only limitations I made was to heterosexual people, as I did not want to launch into a debate about equal rights. I don't have a lot of interactions with ultra Orthodox Jews other than a few people in my building. I push the elevator button for them during sabbath. But it's been my experience that they distrust outsiders. Hasidic men flip out if - in a crowded subway - you touch them. Often impossible as we can be crammed in like sardines. I get frustrated because although I understand they can't touch anyone but their wife, I'm not doing it on purpose, nor do I want anything to do with them once I get off on my stop. I want to tell them, fucking relax. A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson |
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03-12-2013, 06:42 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(03-12-2013 12:08 AM)nach_in Wrote:(02-12-2013 11:42 PM)Chippy Wrote: Which contradicts your contention that the prohibition on homosexuality is about "control". There are many ancient societies--besides Sparta--that weren't free by the standards of the West today and they did not prohibit homosexuality. The idea that morality is that activity which is concerned with appeasing an angry deity entered into Western thought via Judaism. You can read Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics to get an idea of how the Ancient Greeks viewed morality prior to Jewish contamination. Nach - (my phone keeps wanting to autocorrect your name to nachos) In his defense, what chippy said was in no way anti-semetic, anymore than what we criticise about Christians is anti-Christian. His criticisms regarding Jewish culture is apt. I think what he was pointing out was that we seem fearful of criticizing it because it will be automatically labeled as anti-Semitic (you just demonstrated that he was right) ugh...the words "chippy is right" tastes like vinegar! Chippy isn't racist...he hates everyone equally. ![]() A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson |
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03-12-2013, 07:07 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
(03-12-2013 12:37 AM)Chippy Wrote:(03-12-2013 12:08 AM)nach_in Wrote: First of all, I clarified that I think homosexuality is one of a varied set of ways of control. Not every society use every way. Chip - seriously dude. Is there a particular reason that you look to fight with almost everyone? It seems to me that no one - except you of course - can make a valid point. Also, you keep bringing almost every conversation back to examples of Australia yet you accuse other of being ethnocentric. This is a discussion not a debate. I didn't say in the OP, "is sodomy immoral?", I said "why is.." Indicating that I want to discuss...not debate. There is no need for every point someone makes to be so heavy handed or knee deep in references or rhetoric. Take it down a notch will ya? A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson |
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03-12-2013, 07:12 AM
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RE: Sodomy - why is it wrong?
Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk. |
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