Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
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24-11-2014, 03:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 24-11-2014 03:46 PM by Imago.)
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
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24-11-2014, 03:44 PM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(12-09-2014 06:56 PM)Logica Humano Wrote: I am pro-life -- not pro-natal. Pro-natal meaning pro-birth? What do you mean by pro-life? It is self-evident that I do not need religion or God to be a moral, happy, productive human being. |
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24-11-2014, 03:52 PM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(12-09-2014 09:03 PM)Sam Wrote:(31-08-2014 06:21 PM)jojorumbles Wrote: Questions: I was thinking about "birth control" the other day, because I like to think about words. Contraception by definition prevents pregnancy. Abortion ends pregnancy. Pregnancy is defined as once the zygote has embedded itself in the woman or girl's tissues (could be the uterus - normal, could be a Fallopian tube - ectopic, etc.). Abortion can never be emergency contraception. Contraception does not control birth, it controls pregnancy. Abortion is the real birth control, while contraception is pregnancy control. It is self-evident that I do not need religion or God to be a moral, happy, productive human being. |
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27-11-2014, 10:24 AM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(31-08-2014 06:21 PM)jojorumbles Wrote: Questions:I strongly agree "I don't Debate, I Discuss" I offer my opinions, and listen to yours, I will not require proof of opinions, but I may ask for clarification or state that I reject your position and why, & if asked, I will further clarify mine --- However, I reject any requirement that I PROVE my position is accurate and proper. |
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27-11-2014, 10:27 AM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(01-09-2014 06:27 AM)DLJ Wrote: I am pro-life because of the growing number of atheists.I'm puzzled. please explain I would think the reverse "I don't Debate, I Discuss" I offer my opinions, and listen to yours, I will not require proof of opinions, but I may ask for clarification or state that I reject your position and why, & if asked, I will further clarify mine --- However, I reject any requirement that I PROVE my position is accurate and proper. |
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27-11-2014, 10:30 AM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(01-09-2014 10:40 PM)DLJ Wrote:I think she is considering Rape, incest, etc.(01-09-2014 10:37 PM)Imago Wrote: ... "I don't Debate, I Discuss" I offer my opinions, and listen to yours, I will not require proof of opinions, but I may ask for clarification or state that I reject your position and why, & if asked, I will further clarify mine --- However, I reject any requirement that I PROVE my position is accurate and proper. |
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27-11-2014, 10:33 AM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(02-09-2014 09:04 AM)wazzel Wrote: What do you mean by pro-life? If you mean it by the pro-life political movement, then no. If you mean it as in life should be protected when ever possible, then yes.strongly agree "I don't Debate, I Discuss" I offer my opinions, and listen to yours, I will not require proof of opinions, but I may ask for clarification or state that I reject your position and why, & if asked, I will further clarify mine --- However, I reject any requirement that I PROVE my position is accurate and proper. |
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27-11-2014, 03:23 PM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
There is no person more qualified in the abortion debate than the pregnant woman herself, living her life, experiencing her pregnancy.
Politicians and self-righteous know-it-alls living fat in the comfort of their luxury lives can ponder what they believe is Best in hypothetical situations. They can dream up the concepts of "personhood" of "life" vs "non life", they can set their own value levels on the fetus or the late term unborn, they can compare that against their own self appointed value of the woman's rights. They can write up laws controlling how people (they have never met) are to be legally obliged to live by even though they have no idea as to the impact these laws will have on the lives of the individuals. But it doesn't change the fact that... There is no person more qualified in the abortion debate than the pregnant woman herself, living her life, experiencing her pregnancy. My advice to these politicians and know-it-alls, give up on the idea that YOU know Best, give up on the idea that you have the right to control others. Do not endorse unnecessary violence (police obligation to enforce law) against strangers, live your own life and stop concerning yourself with with how you can interfere in the lives of others. |
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27-11-2014, 05:40 PM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
When I consider the abortion issue, I think first of all that, as has been said in this thread, the pregnant woman should have the final say, as it's her body. Regardless of whether she later regrets her decision (either way), it's her body; it's her choice.
When thinking for myself what the best course of action might be for a particular person in this situation, I would consider any health issues, medical or psychological (for mother or potential child), and also the overall situation of the mother. Will this child, if it's born, be born into a situation where it can't be properly provided for? Won't be loved? If the potential child is bound to suffer because its mother can't or won't care for it (be the reasons financial, emotional, educational, whatever), I think it would be better for it to not be born. There are a great number of children living through situations like this, and surely this affects them in adulthood, should they reach it. I know there are a lot of people who have come through situations just like this and are strong, intelligent, worthwhile people, perhaps even more compassionate than they would otherwise have been because of what they've endured. But just because a person can survive such adversity doesn't mean s/he should be forced to do so. (As a zygote s/he can't make any kind of decision like this, so it falls to those who can. And now I'm getting myself a bit too deep, perhaps, heh.) Overall, I would prefer to minimise suffering among everybody and everything that's capable of feeling it. "The amazing thing is that every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. ... So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be here today." -- Lawrence Krauss |
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28-11-2014, 09:18 AM
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RE: Some sincere questions for pro-life atheists, no debate intended
(27-11-2014 10:27 AM)doniston Wrote:(01-09-2014 06:27 AM)DLJ Wrote: I am pro-life because of the growing number of atheists.I'm puzzled. please explain I would think the reverse Not one to speak for others but I'm pretty sure it was a joke. |
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