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09-01-2013, 09:08 AM
RE: Something puzzling
(09-01-2013 08:56 AM)Vera Wrote:  No offence, but this just a lot of talk about nothing, she said, he said.

And I answered myself, because you didn't/couldn't.

So, we do not know what happens to people who were born before they could be saved through Christ, is this what you are saying?

Let's assume they are automatically damned. Do you think this is fair, esp. of an all-loving father?

Let's say they are automatically saved. How does that work - do only the good ones get saved or everybody? And is it fair for the "bad" ones not to be saved, when they might have just be following the norms of their society, trying their best to be good, but it just didn't coincide with a later god's idea of morality?
I'm not really sure what the condition of humans are when we spawn. It seems to me like it is built in our nature to rebel against God but I'm only semi-certain on that.
It seems to be the case that every human has free will and that our free will is to naturally do whatever we want, and that is to be as selfish as we can be. It also seems like we have this other part of us that knows what we ought to do, and so we sometimes are conflicted in our behavior.

Now, if what I just said is the case, and we are rebellious by choice, then asking if it's fair that we are punished for that is like asking if it's fair to the child that he was grounded for a week because he spit in his sisters cereal for a good laugh.

If you instead ask if it's fair for someone committing finite crimes to suffer an infinite punishment, then that's an entirely different story.

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Something puzzling - Momsurroundedbyboys - 08-01-2013, 10:46 PM
RE: Something puzzling - DLJ - 08-01-2013, 10:54 PM
RE: Something puzzling - ClydeLee - 08-01-2013, 10:57 PM
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RE: Something puzzling - morondog - 09-01-2013, 01:02 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Hobbitgirl - 09-01-2013, 01:34 AM
RE: Something puzzling - EvolutionKills - 09-01-2013, 01:46 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Aseptic Skeptic - 09-01-2013, 10:41 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Aseptic Skeptic - 09-01-2013, 04:05 AM
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RE: Something puzzling - Vera - 09-01-2013, 06:30 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 06:32 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Vera - 09-01-2013, 07:07 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 07:26 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Vera - 09-01-2013, 07:34 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 07:51 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Vera - 09-01-2013, 08:15 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 08:47 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 08:48 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Chas - 09-01-2013, 11:16 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Aseptic Skeptic - 09-01-2013, 11:35 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 02:20 PM
RE: Something puzzling - Chas - 09-01-2013, 02:39 PM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 02:43 PM
RE: Something puzzling - Logisch - 09-01-2013, 02:45 PM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: Something puzzling - Chas - 09-01-2013, 07:36 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ClydeLee - 09-01-2013, 09:49 AM
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RE: Something puzzling - Misanthropik - 09-01-2013, 08:53 AM
RE: Something puzzling - Vera - 09-01-2013, 08:56 AM
RE: Something puzzling - ideasonscribe - 09-01-2013 09:08 AM
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