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23-05-2017, 07:49 PM
Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
A jewish friend told me that God Yaweh from the jewish religion says that all others religions did human sacrifices and By law God gave said to not do human sacrifices. As i studied more into the canaan conquest i have read that the canaans already knew about what God did for the jews in egypt(to add to my argument my jewish friend told me that when the isrealites were laugh at the egyptian soldiers drowning God said those are my children too just they needed to be punished for oppressing.) and trembled but did not change their ways. Do you think its was still unjustified for god to genocidally kill canaan for human sacrifice? Blush
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23-05-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Unjustified for God to kill people as "punishment"? --Uh, yeah. And human sacrifice was also practiced by the Israelites at one point. You can see remnant evidence of this in the Bible with Isaac/Abraham and Jephthah and his daughter.

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23-05-2017, 08:17 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 07:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  A jewish friend told me that God Yaweh from the jewish religion says that all others religions did human sacrifices and By law God gave said to not do human sacrifices. As i studied more into the canaan conquest i have read that the canaans already knew about what God did for the jews in egypt(to add to my argument my jewish friend told me that when the isrealites were laugh at the egyptian soldiers drowning God said those are my children too just they needed to be punished for oppressing.) and trembled but did not change their ways. Do you think its was still unjustified for god to genocidally kill canaan for human sacrifice? Blush

This, Mods, is why we need edit. This is a fucking mess.

Gosh if only there was a Jew on this forum to address these matters from a Jewish perspective. Drinking Beverage Socialistview, you're welcome to PM me if you have a question that I can try to answer, but what you've written above is not clear enough for me to understand.
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23-05-2017, 08:25 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
I'm beginning to suspect there's some magic afoot and someone only has to say a certain word (not sure which one exactly, can't be Jew, that's too obvious) and Aliza appears, like the "manevolent" spiritess of all Judaism-related knowledge Blink

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23-05-2017, 08:30 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 08:25 PM)Vera Wrote:  I'm beginning to suspect there's some magic afoot and someone only has to say a certain word (not sure which one exactly, can't be Jew, that's too obvious) and Aliza appears, like the "manevolent" spiritess of all Judaism-related knowledge Blink

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Actually, I've been here this whole time. I just don't feel very chatty lately. Undecided
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23-05-2017, 08:31 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Jews never came from Egypt. Jews are quite literally Canaanites, they CAME from Canaan originally. Clearly you should put down the religious bullshit and open a fucking history book. The historical record is clear with lots of evidence, the bible account of this is bullshit.

Yes. "god" as an idea proposed by the bible or any other religion for that matter is a bad guy. At best every religions version of a "god" isn't any better than any humans. Now that's not so much a big deal when you have the Greek and Norse "gods" where the people practicing the religions didn't try to pretend their gods were perfect. Christians do, and their "god" is the worst out of almost all of the proposed gods.

I keep suggesting you watch the video's by Darkmatter2525 he lays these things out in cartoon form very logical and well put together and easy to understand. Sure he uses "bad" words. You've made it clear that's why you don't want to watch it (either that or you are scared to think or hear another perspective), but again your idea of a "bad" word is just propping up middle ages class warfare (rich vs poor), there's nothing unbiblical with saying fuck (if you take a biblical stance on it), so grow up.


Need more clarity? Here I'll put it in a rhyme for ya...

(originally posted on my blog on AtheistNexus.org with help from Glen)

do you say da bad words?
I don't
but
do you?
I wont
but
will you?

Me
Fuck I don't know... depends on what you define as a bad word. I would call a word bad if its used to diminish another human. And yes as a shitty fallible human I have said bad words, though I try not to. I don't like being around it or doing it and I especially don't like being subjected to it.

but words carry no intrinsic ideological notion of good or evil, right or wrong in their own merit, it is how we use and apply them that turn them into tools for good (well-being) or evil (harm)

What I find funny, is Christians don't agree with me but their Holy book does agree with me on this lol.

When I point out that god never handed down a list of good or bad words (with the exception of blasphemy, but since I don't believe in any gods fuck god), they still think "bad" words exist because they had that drilled into their brains and are scared to deviate from it. The bible does say calling someone a fool puts you in danger of hell.
so basically the bible's standard on what defines a good or bad word is identical to mine. "Except I don't think anyone will go to hell for calling Trump an Idiot...

To add fuel to the fire, our present notion of good/bad words is derived from a dark ages bullshit form of class warfare (rich vs poor)

Once again, the bible takes what could be a decent moral lesson and fucks it up by adding heaven and hell into the mix, and Christians miss the fucking point entirely and continue to worship their real god which are the priests. Ultimately, they don't give a fuck about their holy book lol.
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23-05-2017, 08:35 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 08:30 PM)Aliza Wrote:  Actually, I've been here this whole time. I just don't feel very chatty lately. Undecided

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Been there... well, not really... I mostly come here when I *am* chatty (and sometimes cranky Blush ). Helps take mind off things (and kill time which should be spent working but let's not go there...)

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23-05-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 07:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  As i studied more ...

Coloring books do not count as studying.


(23-05-2017 07:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Do you think its was still unjustified for god to genocidally kill canaan for human sacrifice?

Since the character of god is mythical, people can attribute whatever attributes they want to it.

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23-05-2017, 08:37 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 08:30 PM)Aliza Wrote:  
(23-05-2017 08:25 PM)Vera Wrote:  I'm beginning to suspect there's some magic afoot and someone only has to say a certain word (not sure which one exactly, can't be Jew, that's too obvious) and Aliza appears, like the "manevolent" spiritess of all Judaism-related knowledge Blink

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Actually, I've been here this whole time. I just don't feel very chatty lately. Undecided

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23-05-2017, 09:08 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
According to your fairytale book he killed 250 million people because he couldn't do what ordinary people do everyday of the year.....they forgive others. And they forgive others without requiring a blood sacrifice.

Your biblical god makes Stalin and Hitler look like sweet little girls at a tea party , so yeah, your deity is a big fucked up dick.

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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