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15-08-2017, 12:11 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
How can socialistview and Angra Mainyu both believe in the same religion, yet have opposing views on the rapture? Surely Christians can't disagree on a basic tenet, can they?
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15-08-2017, 12:22 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 12:11 AM)Clockwork Wrote:  How can socialistview and Angra Mainyu both believe in the same religion, yet have opposing views on the rapture? Surely Christians can't disagree on a basic tenet, can they?

It depends on what sect of Christianity you're talking about. For example, Protestantism and Catholicism are basically alien to each other.
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15-08-2017, 01:50 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(14-08-2017 11:47 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(14-08-2017 09:02 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  > Likewise, the story of Adam & Eve must also be an allegory--a work of fiction.
Consider

Well yeah, it is.

So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

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15-08-2017, 02:36 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 01:50 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(14-08-2017 11:47 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  Well yeah, it is.

So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.
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15-08-2017, 02:44 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 02:36 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(15-08-2017 01:50 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.

Precisely what wisdom? Precisely

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15-08-2017, 03:01 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 02:36 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(15-08-2017 01:50 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.

> “Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.” (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason)

> "It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man." (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason)

> “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” (Isaac Asimov)

> “I know of no book which has been a source of brutality and sadistic conduct, both public and private, than can compare with the Bible.” (Reginald Paget)

> “The book of Job is one of the most powerful arguments against God in the atheist arsenal. It proves once and for all that YHWH is not a good god. Even if such a god exists, we surely cannot rely on him to define our morals, to tell us what is good or bad. If holiness is what gods do, then holiness is a terrible thing.” (Victor J. Stenger) Consider
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15-08-2017, 05:11 AM (This post was last modified: 15-08-2017 05:14 AM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 02:36 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(15-08-2017 01:50 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.

So just to be clear here, all of the gospels, which include Jesus' life death, and resurrection, did not really happen. The idea of Jesus saving the world from original sin, is an allegory, a fiction. The idea of Jesus returning to to Earth to set up an actual kingdom is nothing but an allegory. The idea of heaven, hell and the afterlife is nothing but an allegory.

If that's the case, we are in agreement, everything in it is just a story to be individually interpreted, none of it is literal, all of it is allegory.

Is that really what you're saying here?

Follow up question, if only some of it is allegory and some is not, pleases explain an OBJECTIVE process in which you can clearly and unequivocally determine the difference between the literal and allegorical parts that are in no way dependent on a person's opinion. Drinking Beverage

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15-08-2017, 05:24 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 02:36 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.

"spiritual wisdom" Laughat
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Please provide a single shred of evidence that "the christ" ever existed or is planning to return. Or are you simply here to preach?

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15-08-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(14-08-2017 08:55 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(14-08-2017 07:56 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  I thought you were Catholic? The Catholic Church doesn't teach a "rapture", it's a doctrine that was invented by a fellow named Darby in the early 1800s.

Correct. There will be no rapture. I hate that people believe that crap. The Christ shall return, but it will certainly not be a rapturous event.

I hate that people believe this crap, but watcha gonna do...
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15-08-2017, 07:52 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(15-08-2017 02:36 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(15-08-2017 01:50 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  So if Adam & Eve is fiction....how much of the rest of the bible is fiction? Surely all of it? Why would one part be fiction and another part not be?

It's an allegorical text, containing tremendous spiritual wisdom.

Do you not see the flaw in your own thought process? Some of it is fictional, but other parts arent? You've already established you don't follow it to a T, so why do you "believe" any of it at all? If it's all metaphorical/allegorical, then none of the meaning is directly what is says?

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