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20-08-2017, 03:45 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 02:52 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And why do think gods way if im trying to follow by his views are insane.

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20-08-2017, 04:02 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 12:25 PM)socialistview Wrote:  well the bible says in john 8 jesus doesnt dudge but we judge by human standards but when jesus does judge he judges correctly.
But do you not see how this is dangerous and potentially harmful thinking?
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20-08-2017, 04:41 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 02:52 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 01:48 PM)adey67 Wrote:  A little of both I'm afraid to say.

How are they crazy? And why do think gods way if im trying to follow by his views are insane.

You quote scripture and call it proof,you use the most banal and simplistic long debunked apologetics, you use the bible to try and prove the bible, your command of the English language while I'm sure superior to anything I could muster in your native language is woefully inadequate for meaningful debate and dialogue on an English speaking forum not that it matters because your tactics are underhand and dishonest, you are frequently contradictory and often appear to make stuff up as you go along, all of which insults even my limited understanding. If that's not slightly insane I don't know what is.
I don't actually care what you believe I support and respect your right to believe what ever crazy thing makes you happy in fact I would fight for you to have that right but I cannot respect the belief itself or someone who expects us to swallow the utter bilge you vomit up over this forum.
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20-08-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
If God is such a bad guy, how do you explain dogs and other wonderful animals? I have a dachshund and I'm not willing to believe such a good, loveable thing came into existence for no reason? Isn't that what atheists believe, that there's no real purpose for anything existing? That just doesn't seem realistic to me. You don't have to believe in the Yahweh or Allah etc. necessarily, but how could you not believe in a Creator at all? How do atheists justify their rejection of a Creator? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I really just don't understand the atheist mindset. There are natural laws, sure......but how does that mean there's no Creator, or like, no force/entity/being that kickstarted the universe? A molecule just blew up and everything in the universe naturally formed itself in perfect dimensions.......for no reason? Just because? I don't think so. I'm not saying God deserves reverence/worship, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. But no God at all? That's preposterous. What if atheists are only atheists due to a kneejerk reaction to religion, or because atheism is so radically different from theism? Surely there could be a middle ground that makes sense? I feel like theists and atheists reject a "middle ground" option 'cuz they want to be part of a defined group, which is dumb. The answer always lies somewhere in the middle.
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20-08-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:42 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  If God is such a bad guy, how do you explain dogs and other wonderful animals? I have a dachshund and I'm not willing to believe such a good, loveable thing came into existence for no reason? Isn't that what atheists believe, that there's no real purpose for anything existing? That just doesn't seem realistic to me. You don't have to believe in the Yahweh or Allah etc. necessarily, but how could you not believe in a Creator at all? How do atheists justify their rejection of a Creator? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I really just don't understand the atheist mindset. There are natural laws, sure......but how does that mean there's no Creator, or like, no force/entity/being that kickstarted the universe? A molecule just blew up and everything in the universe naturally formed itself in perfect dimensions.......for no reason? Just because? I don't think so. I'm not saying God deserves reverence/worship, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. But no God at all? That's preposterous. What if atheists are only atheists due to a kneejerk reaction to religion, or because atheism is so radically different from theism? Surely there could be a middle ground that makes sense? I feel like theists and atheists reject a "middle ground" option 'cuz they want to be part of a defined group, which is dumb. The answer always lies somewhere in the middle.

The god of the gaps is what you are looking for.

You don't understand and have filled in the blanks with 'god did it'.

I have no need to do that.

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20-08-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
The modern dog, including dachshunds, are the product of human intervention.

All kidding aside, I thought that was common knowledge. There are no packs of wild dachshunds or French poodles.
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20-08-2017, 05:57 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 04:02 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 12:25 PM)socialistview Wrote:  well the bible says in john 8 jesus doesnt dudge but we judge by human standards but when jesus does judge he judges correctly.
But do you not see how this is dangerous and potentially harmful thinking?

What's harmful about it? Almost everyone knows humans aren't perfect and that our judgments can often be unsound, so if Jesus was the perfect man, wouldn't it make sense for his judgments to be of a higher quality than ours?
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20-08-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:56 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  The modern dog, including dachshunds, are the product of human intervention.

All kidding aside, I thought that was common knowledge. There are no packs of wild dachshunds or French poodles.

Yeah well you can't breed a spirit into an animal or anything else, dogs and other animals, as well as humans, have an observable spiritual element that didn't come to exist through purely mechanistic means.
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20-08-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:57 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 04:02 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  But do you not see how this is dangerous and potentially harmful thinking?

What's harmful about it? Almost everyone knows humans aren't perfect and that our judgments can often be unsound, so if Jesus was the perfect man, wouldn't it make sense for his judgments to be of a higher quality than ours?
Are you going to listen or just argue if I answer?
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20-08-2017, 06:02 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:59 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 05:57 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  What's harmful about it? Almost everyone knows humans aren't perfect and that our judgments can often be unsound, so if Jesus was the perfect man, wouldn't it make sense for his judgments to be of a higher quality than ours?
Are you going to listen or just argue if I answer?

I'll listen.
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