Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
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21-08-2017, 09:28 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:42 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  If God is such a bad guy, how do you explain dogs and other wonderful animals? I have a dachshund and I'm not willing to believe such a good, loveable thing came into existence for no reason? Isn't that what atheists believe, that there's no real purpose for anything existing? That just doesn't seem realistic to me. You don't have to believe in the Yahweh or Allah etc. necessarily, but how could you not believe in a Creator at all? How do atheists justify their rejection of a Creator? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I really just don't understand the atheist mindset. There are natural laws, sure......but how does that mean there's no Creator, or like, no force/entity/being that kickstarted the universe? A molecule just blew up and everything in the universe naturally formed itself in perfect dimensions.......for no reason? Just because? I don't think so. I'm not saying God deserves reverence/worship, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. But no God at all? That's preposterous. What if atheists are only atheists due to a kneejerk reaction to religion, or because atheism is so radically different from theism? Surely there could be a middle ground that makes sense? I feel like theists and atheists reject a "middle ground" option 'cuz they want to be part of a defined group, which is dumb. The answer always lies somewhere in the middle.

Why should there be a middle ground for something that has absolutely no objective evidence for it?
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21-08-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:57 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 04:02 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  But do you not see how this is dangerous and potentially harmful thinking?

What's harmful about it? Almost everyone knows humans aren't perfect and that our judgments can often be unsound, so if Jesus was the perfect man, wouldn't it make sense for his judgments to be of a higher quality than ours?

Because so many believers claim to speak for Jesus?
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21-08-2017, 09:30 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:23 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:20 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  Because your delusional. Your make-believe friend is controlling your actions. Your posts make no sense. You're a bottomless well of circular reasoning. You believe whatever makes you feel good to believe.

Should I go on?

No I don't.

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21-08-2017, 09:30 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 05:59 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 05:56 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  The modern dog, including dachshunds, are the product of human intervention.

All kidding aside, I thought that was common knowledge. There are no packs of wild dachshunds or French poodles.

Yeah well you can't breed a spirit into an animal or anything else, dogs and other animals, as well as humans, have an observable spiritual element that didn't come to exist through purely mechanistic means.

You can't breed for a character that doesn't exist.
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21-08-2017, 09:33 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 08:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 04:41 PM)adey67 Wrote:  You quote scripture and call it proof,you use the most banal and simplistic long debunked apologetics, you use the bible to try and prove the bible, your command of the English language while I'm sure superior to anything I could muster in your native language is woefully inadequate for meaningful debate and dialogue on an English speaking forum not that it matters because your tactics are underhand and dishonest, you are frequently contradictory and often appear to make stuff up as you go along, all of which insults even my limited understanding. If that's not slightly insane I don't know what is.
I don't actually care what you believe I support and respect your right to believe what ever crazy thing makes you happy in fact I would fight for you to have that right but I cannot respect the belief itself or someone who expects us to swallow the utter bilge you vomit up over this forum.

What do i make up firstly then i know my english is bad but what other proof do i need to prove the bible?

Other proof?! You have NO proof. Did you look it up in the dictionary? I doubt it.
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21-08-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:02 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  
(19-08-2017 12:48 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I guess to say only people who are in despair is when someone may seek something better than the situation there currently in or a hope for better and not worse. Not saying death is worse but wouldnt you think in this world suffering and everything is a strain and you rather be dead than alive. Now what if there was a place better than this that you would want wouldnt you try to get something you want and mabe literally convinced yourself that youll get it. Right you hope for better. But i proved the history now there will be no sign from god till the day of the lord coming. But the antichrist will show signs and miracles like this is literal shit thats going to happen in the future and thats whats it has as miracles and prophecies and having proof in this day of time but its also prophecying that about how the end would look like goung in and during but ya.

Didn't answer the question. Because you can't. You just spout bullshit and claim "I won".

The archeology and the message of it but i was saying its like its harder for the rich to make it in to heaven than the poor because have nothing so they'll submit but one who is well off it will be harder for them to submit and do what God says.
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21-08-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 08:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 08:31 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Facts are proven. The stuff you try to use from The Bible to 'prove' The Bible are things that are believed - taken on faith - not facts.

Never mind. No sense in further wasting eyestrain or keystrokes.

so what am i trying to prove from the bible?

I don't know. We can't figure it out. Don't you know? You said you've proved it...Hobo
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21-08-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 08:39 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(20-08-2017 08:36 PM)Anjele Wrote:  I no longer care.

Why not, your brain hurts? Or your scared to keep going by reason that your views and your belief system from which you take your stance that gods not real will be beaten down.

Fuck off, asshole.
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21-08-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:22 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:19 AM)JesseB Wrote:  @SocialistView

Dude.... do you know which gods were around before the god of the bible? Cause..... anyone who's ever bothered to study history knows he's not the first to be invented. Hell out of the history of humanity the god of the bible is one of the newest gods/religions.....

Zorastrian was the same way in monotheism.

So you know Zorastrian was around before Christianity.... and that doesn't make you think? Zorastrian was the most recent religion before Christianity in that neck of the woods there are many far older religions as well...

But your response gives cause to wonder.

You're beginning to display what is called Cognitive Dissonance are you aware of this?

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21-08-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(20-08-2017 09:26 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  How about the gnostic gospels?

No thanks, I read too much fiction as it is.
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