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21-08-2017, 09:48 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:44 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:37 AM)JesseB Wrote:  Maths have proofs.... so does booze....

I agree with you Kemo he doesn't seem to have any clue what the word means.

How do you want me to prove it?

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I don't.

I want you to provide testable repeatable demonstrable evidence to back up your claims. Again math and booze have proofs and all you've demonstrated is your so stupid you can't even open up a dictionary to find out what the definition of proof is.

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21-08-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:04 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  
(19-08-2017 01:02 PM)socialistview Wrote:  If you want to see proof spiritual you have to believe the bible says in order for god to do miracles for you you have to believe first or it literally doesnt give him reason to want to Do miracles for you. Thats how he works.

How do you know how he works?

The bible says so.
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21-08-2017, 09:50 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:44 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:37 AM)JesseB Wrote:  Maths have proofs.... so does booze....

I agree with you Kemo he doesn't seem to have any clue what the word means.

How do you want me to prove it?

You said you already did.

Prove the miraculous parts of the bible are true without using the bible.
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21-08-2017, 09:55 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:50 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:44 AM)socialistview Wrote:  How do you want me to prove it?

You said you already did.

Prove the miraculous parts of the bible are true without using the bible.

Maybe he saw this and thought it clearly "proves" his god.

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21-08-2017, 09:55 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:48 AM)JesseB Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:44 AM)socialistview Wrote:  How do you want me to prove it?

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I don't.

I want you to provide testable repeatable demonstrable evidence to back up your claims. Again math and booze have proofs and all you've demonstrated is your so stupid you can't even open up a dictionary to find out what the definition of proof is.

Well I showed you the archeology on wikipeading that the plagues happened the flood you have to search the ocean to find evidence. Amorites leaving Mesopotamia in 1800 bc. And the exodus and jericho through archeology.

Now if you want miracles Jesus said he doesn't do things like the world does and you have to be a believer to recieve miracles and experience them othwise no sign and wonders till the antichrist comes. Miracles follow the believer.
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21-08-2017, 09:58 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
It happened just you have to figure out a way to recreate it and test it dumbasses.
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21-08-2017, 09:58 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 01:30 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  the existence of the supernatural realm can't be disproven

The problem is that the existence of a supernatural realm can't be proven. If you believe things simply because they can't be disproven you must end up with contradictory beliefs.

There is life on other planets.
There is not life on other planets.

Neither of those statements can be proven or disproven. By your logic it is reasonable to believe both of them which is irrational.

Quote: What else would it be?

Atheism is the state of not accepting the claim "god exists". If it is a belief then it is the belief that the claim of god's existence had not met the burden of proof.

Quote:"Facts" change all the time. The atheists of today don't believe the same things atheists believed in say, the 1700's. Where do you draw the line in denial of anything contradicting "facts" ? (which change all the time)

Our knowledge increases and we get better information all the time. The key is to base your beliefs on the best available evidence and be willing to revise those beliefs when new evidence is found. The idea that because we don't have perfect knowledge it becomes reasonable to believe whatever feels good is simply ridiculous.

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21-08-2017, 10:00 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:58 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 01:30 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  the existence of the supernatural realm can't be disproven

The problem is that the existence of a supernatural realm can't be proven. If you believe things simply because they can't be disproven you must end up with contradictory beliefs.

There is life on other planets.
There is not life on other planets.

Neither of those statements can be proven or disproven. By your logic it is reasonable to believe both of them which is irrational.

Quote: What else would it be?

Atheism is the state of not accepting the claim "god exists". If it is a belief then it is the belief that the claim of god's existence had not met the burden of proof.

Quote:"Facts" change all the time. The atheists of today don't believe the same things atheists believed in say, the 1700's. Where do you draw the line in denial of anything contradicting "facts" ? (which change all the time)

Our knowledge increases and we get better information all the time. The key is to base your beliefs on the best available evidence and be willing to revise those beliefs when new evidence is found. The idea that because we don't have perfect knowledge it becomes reasonable to believe whatever feels good is simply ridiculous.

It happened in the physical world so it can be studied. For miracle shit happening but who said the supernatural is in a different realm not testable and verifiabld to science.
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21-08-2017, 10:02 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:58 AM)socialistview Wrote:  It happened just you have to figure out a way to recreate it and test it dumbasses.

Even if I granted your absurd statement, recreating it would not prove that it happened, only that it was possible. You would still need evidence that it actually did happen and a bunch of stories in a book don't provide that, especially when all of the available physical evidence contradicts it.

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21-08-2017, 10:02 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-08-2017 09:55 AM)socialistview Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 09:48 AM)JesseB Wrote:  Facepalm

I don't.

I want you to provide testable repeatable demonstrable evidence to back up your claims. Again math and booze have proofs and all you've demonstrated is your so stupid you can't even open up a dictionary to find out what the definition of proof is.

Well I showed you the archeology on wikipeading that the plagues happened the flood you have to search the ocean to find evidence. Amorites leaving Mesopotamia in 1800 bc. And the exodus and jericho through archeology.

Now if you want miracles Jesus said he doesn't do things like the world does and you have to be a believer to recieve miracles and experience them othwise no sign and wonders till the antichrist comes. Miracles follow the believer.

Incorrect and we have computers as evidence that you are full of shit.

Do you know why computers work? Do you know why we can make Airplanes? Space ships?

The reason is simple the world responds in a reliable consistent way. If the world changed to accommodate your miraculous claims, computers in particular could not work. I know this because I understand the underlying principles and physics behind WHY computers work and how. To you the computer is a magic box that let's you spew asinine bullshit to the world. To me the computer is my scientific field of study, which I understand at a very fundamental level the intricacies of how it functions. People claim miracles today, yet you didn't offer to show us one. Why? cause they have always been scams. You haven't shown evidence that the bible is accurate. Aside from a few very minor things you haven't demonstrated accuracy in the bible at all and have knowingly misrepresented things to and lied and ignored contrary reliable evidence.

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