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27-08-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
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27-08-2017, 09:10 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://ratiochristi.org/

2 Timothy 3:16-17
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

There was no canon when he said that. So what the hell was he even talking about ?
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27-08-2017, 09:15 PM (This post was last modified: 27-08-2017 09:21 PM by TSG.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:03 PM)socialistview Wrote:  what do you want me to justify in the bible what it says or how it goes according to the earth?
Why should we take the Bible seriously in a world with hundreds of mutually exclusive scriptures?

Quote:and you should believe till proven wrong
I am Mormon Jesus. You should believe me until I'm proven wrong.

Quote:We haven't done much hard searching for the past stories and I showed you evidence of possible abraham the flood covererd the world is a possibility I guess from information we do have probably got to dig deeper into the ground.
Devout Christians have been digging for literal centuries. But of course the proof is just a little deeper. We just have to keep digging, right? And no, a global flood as described by the Bible is literally, objectively impossible in almost every conceivable way. I recommend this video series if you think it's even remotely plausible.

Quote:There were plagues according to Wikipedia.
Using Wikipedia is bad enough on its own, but you didn't even say where in Wikipedia, or quote it.

Quote:Exodus it's crazy I can find evidence that say yes but you can find that say no.
Again, no. That's objectively false. There is no direct evidence that the Hebrews were ever enslaved in Egypt.

Quote:You want everybody coming into agreement yes this is the actual site with ya bread coming from the sky and water from a rock with doves falling from the sky for meat. What clues you want?
Consider Literally anything other than Bronze Age conjecture? That would be nice.

Quote:This bible you trust it's suppose to be the exact words of God
No it isn't. You're confusing the Bible with the Koran. The Koran is supposed to be the exact words of God. The Bible is a collection of various documents written and compiled by several people over several centuries before being cherry picked by establishments with agendas when building a canon.

Quote:and a promise for hindu nirvanna in terms of Christian not only heaven but a better world.




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27-08-2017, 09:43 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 05:10 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Doesn't the bible say his whatever won't stay long in man to live so many years?

Doesn't matter what the bible "sez". Quoting anything that the bibble sez is meaningless crap. The babble sez donkey's talk. The babble sez rabbits chew their cud. The babble sez flying insects have four legs.

You must be so dizzy from the circular reasoning spinning around in your head that mental confusion has set in.


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27-08-2017, 09:49 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://ratiochristi.org/

You're really a rotten apologist ... a horrible messenger for your cult.
Maybe you could move up to a job in fast food ?

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27-08-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://ratiochristi.org/

So I'm reading this, why I don't know, because I guess I want to see how stupid brains work in some morbid curiosity sort of way,

Ratio Christi (Latin for ‘The Reason of Christ’) is a global movement that equips university students and faculty to give historical, philosophical, and scientific reasons for following Jesus Christ. Bringing together faith and reason to establish the intellectual voice of Christ in the University, Ratio Christi is planting student and faculty led apologetics clubs at universities around the world. Students, engaged in the battle for the mind, learn to defend God's existence, the reliability of the Bible, and the fact of Christ’s resurrection. We seek a Renaissance of Christian Thinking in the University.

This right here is why I hate Christians. They take yet another basic Golden Rule principle driven religion and pervert it into requiring the acceptance of what to any sane human being is patently absurd. If you can't understand the fundamental metaphor of your own beliefs you should be denounced and excommunicated.

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27-08-2017, 10:14 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
I mean... The real problem with https://ratiochristi.org/ goal is there is no rational argument for their position that wouldn't equally apply to any other religion, or hell even any other fake religion.

Like you said GirlyMan, they demand you accept the "Fact" of the resurrection without any evidence. Sure if you accept the claims before you investigate it you can lie to yourself until you actually believe there is evidence. Yet all they offer are claims and excuses.

Also.... Bad dog @SV haven't we told you to speak for yourself and not link other websites? Aren't you ashamed of trying to use a website link as an argument? Are you so uneducated and ill informed that you can't even make a compelling case from your own thoughts? The rest of us are sharing our own ideas, none of us are simply sending empty links to other peoples ideas (we generally could categorize that in the same way we do plagiarism, it's not quite plagiarism as you've not claimed to make the website, but it's getting damn close)

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27-08-2017, 11:08 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:03 PM)socialistview Wrote:  what do you want me to justify in the bible what it says or how it goes according to the earth? and you should believe till proven wrong

No. One should not bother believing until something in the Bible can be proven correct -- and then only believe that one thing, not the whole Bible.

Start with Genesis 3. Run out and find me a Talking Snake™ and I'll believe that Talking Snakes™ are possible.

Quote:the flood covererd the world is a possibility...

The Ark -- a boat built of wood -- would have been smashed to pieces and all the people and animals drowned within an hour or two of the rains starting to fall at 30 fucking feet per hour. That is the rate of rainfall required to completely flood the Earth to the top of Mount Everest in 40 days, and the water pressure would be roughly equivalent to a giant fire hose. The Ark simply could not have survived that; therefore, the Noah story is almost certainly a myth rather than a real event.

Quote:...bread coming from the sky and water from a rock with doves falling from the sky for meat. What clues you want?

Doves falling from the sky for meat? Facepalm

Quote:This bible you trust it's suppose to be the exact words of God...

No, Socialistview, one cannot trust the Bible. It is clearly not the words of a god, but the words of people who were not particularly knowledgeable about reality.

I figured out 53 years ago that the Bible was just a storybook. What the hell is your excuse for believing that pigshit?

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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27-08-2017, 11:12 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:49 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  You're really a rotten apologist ... a horrible messenger for your cult. Maybe you could move up to a job in fast food ?

Please don't give him any ideas. I want him as far as possible from my sandwiches.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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28-08-2017, 05:13 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-08-2017 09:03 PM)socialistview Wrote:  what do you want me to justify in the bible what it says or how it goes according to the earth?

What it says is a mix of some decent stuff and a whole shitload of truly awful stuff. It does not go "according to the earth" at all.

Quote:and you should believe till proven wrong

Bzzzzzt. Wrong. Thanks for playing Alice. You should believe things for which there is evidence otherwise you end up believing contradictory things and all sorts of nonsensical things... like the bible.

Quote:We haven't done much hard searching for the past stories and I showed you evidence of possible abraham the flood covererd the world is a possibility

Bzzzzt. Wrong. Thanks for playing Alice. There is a lot of evidence for local floods in many places at many different times. There is no evidence of a global flood and the story has so many plot holes you could sail an ark through them.

Quote:I guess from information we do have probably got to dig deeper into the ground.

Fine. When you find the evidence, report back.

Quote:There were plagues according to Wikipedia.

That depends on what you mean. Plagues, as in infectious diseases, are real. Plagues, as in the 10 plagues of Egypt, are mythology.

Quote:Exodus it's crazy I can find evidence that say yes but you can find that say no.

There is no evidence that says "yes" there is only vague speculation about how you could possibly, maybe twist some small inconsistency into maybe, sort of implying something vaguely like something that sounds kind of like the story.

Exodus did not happen.

Quote:ou want everybody coming into agreement yes this is the actual site with ya bread coming from the sky and water from a rock with doves falling from the sky for meat. What clues you want?

How can you write that and not see the clues that this is mythology slapping you in the face?

Quote:This bible you trust it's suppose to be the exact words of God and a promise for hindu nirvanna in terms of Christian not only heaven but a better world.

I've read it. It is not trustworthy. It is the words of very human writers attempting in some cases to tell a story and in some cases to solidify political power. It makes many promises; so do other religions. So do con men. You've been conned.

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