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21-06-2017, 07:19 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 06:16 PM)socialistview Wrote:  yall really should get this book asap
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-...gws-lite..

LOL First review that came up:

Unsurprisingly, then, "The Secret History of the World: As Laid Down by the Secret Societies" - another Warren Report that no one asked for - is dreadful. When the book was released in Britain last fall, some reviewers felt it best to hedge their bets against classic British prankishness by insisting that they were still not completely convinced that Mark Booth's effort (published under the pseudonym "Jonathan Black" in England) wasn't an elaborate hoax.

How, after all, could some 500 pages of such junk have found their way into print without the help of an enormous plot between author and editor, publisher and investors? Perhaps, in some enigmatic way, the book itself was written as an explanation for its own existence - a conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. Indeed, peppered as it is with pronouncements such as "Everything here is upside down and inside out. In the pages that follow you will be invited to think the last things that the people who guard and maintain the consensus want you to think," "Secret History" is a hard sell as a legitimate - that is, not a joke - piece of writing.

Adam and Eve, we are told, were vegetables. Cain, Abel and an early race of Egyptians, too. There were two Jesuses - not twins, but close - and two Crucifixions (although the second took place in Mexico and didn't involve either of the aforementioned Jesuses). And the reason for peculiar similarities in the works of Bacon, Marlowe, Shakespeare and Donne is simply that the Prophet Elijah simultaneously imbued the authors with his spirit so that humanity could learn how to be introspective.


http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Secr...231917.php

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21-06-2017, 08:08 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 07:19 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(21-06-2017 06:16 PM)socialistview Wrote:  yall really should get this book asap
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-...gws-lite..

LOL First review that came up:

Unsurprisingly, then, "The Secret History of the World: As Laid Down by the Secret Societies" - another Warren Report that no one asked for - is dreadful. When the book was released in Britain last fall, some reviewers felt it best to hedge their bets against classic British prankishness by insisting that they were still not completely convinced that Mark Booth's effort (published under the pseudonym "Jonathan Black" in England) wasn't an elaborate hoax.

How, after all, could some 500 pages of such junk have found their way into print without the help of an enormous plot between author and editor, publisher and investors? Perhaps, in some enigmatic way, the book itself was written as an explanation for its own existence - a conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. Indeed, peppered as it is with pronouncements such as "Everything here is upside down and inside out. In the pages that follow you will be invited to think the last things that the people who guard and maintain the consensus want you to think," "Secret History" is a hard sell as a legitimate - that is, not a joke - piece of writing.

Adam and Eve, we are told, were vegetables. Cain, Abel and an early race of Egyptians, too. There were two Jesuses - not twins, but close - and two Crucifixions (although the second took place in Mexico and didn't involve either of the aforementioned Jesuses). And the reason for peculiar similarities in the works of Bacon, Marlowe, Shakespeare and Donne is simply that the Prophet Elijah simultaneously imbued the authors with his spirit so that humanity could learn how to be introspective.


http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Secr...231917.php

OMG. This dude is more of a wacko than anyone had imagined.

But that's it ! Finally I see why Eve said to Adam, "Come and eat some fruits my Little Rutabaga."

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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21-06-2017, 08:11 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 04:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  im not a troll i just know im right. and i bet you most christians wont make it to heaven just a simple person who is good will.

So your omnipotent omniscient god created most people to suffer for all eternity.
Nice guy.
You "worship" that fucker ?

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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21-06-2017, 09:21 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
So wheres india think about this was before boats when people where nomads traveling on land very sparce from each other but yes this was before god was only god to the jews.
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21-06-2017, 09:27 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Its like this if your wrong your wrong he shows you the better way but if you want to indulge in evil you deserve to suffer stop thinking like a little sin wont harm anybody rather a little sin causes bigger problems to others.
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21-06-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Every region has a flood story if you reread the Wikipedia source
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21-06-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 09:30 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Every region has a flood story if you reread the Wikipedia source

I read every word of it. None of the "flood stories" match up, some aren't even about water, and most of them aren't really global floods. If you exclude obvious copies of the Utnapishtim story (Noah and other variations), there's almost nothing like what that story claims.

More importantly, you are "counting the hits and ignoring the misses", which is intellectually dishonest. There are far, far more cultures that have no flood myth whatsoever.

And, as I pointed out to you previously-- do you read my replies?-- it's not only curious to see that the only cultures that seem to have a version of the Epic of Gilgamesh flood story (Utnapishtim/Noah/etc) are ones that had recent contact with the descendants of the Sumerians... including the Jews and later, the Christians.

If you're going to posit a worldwide flood, and present the evidence that there are several cultures with flood stories, you have to account for two important questions:

1) If the flood was really global and not regional, why do dry areas not report flood stories?

It would seem to be something they would definitely notice and enter into their oral histories! (Also, why do people on the same continent, like Africa, have 15 or so flood stories out of hundreds of tribes?)

2) Why are none of the physical evidences of a flood of that magnitude present?

We can easily trace when and where (and to what extent) various regions have flooded in the past by looking at the silt layer, a very distinct type of deposit in the rock beds that indicates flooding... in regions where floods happen fairly often, like the Tigris/Euphrates river valley where the Utnapishtim story originated, they can use the multiple layers of silt to tell how many times. Your global flood should have left a deposit that can be found anywhere-- from the Himalayas to the Andes to the Outback-- if there really was such an event. It's. Not. There.

You really should take personal stock of your ability to really think about such questions, especially if you're going to be trying to argue that there was once a global genocide by your "good God" that wiped out all humanity, save eight.

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21-06-2017, 11:51 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 05:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How many times i have to say it i believe in all religions were all right ...

So you believe that the stars are campfires lit by distant wandering tribes living near a river in the Milky Way? There is a rainbow serpent which goes around the dark spots between the campfires? (As per what I understand to be part of the Kaurna people's Dreamtime tradition)

While at the same time, stars are some sort of decorations or something hung in the sky by a deity (Job 9:9)

(21-06-2017 05:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ... and i think our energy surpasses the natural world i believe its an evolutionary step and one day well move objects with our mind. ...

Speaking as a self-styled student of the biological sciences, with special interest regarding evolutionary science; that is an absolute bullshit-wrapped nonsense burrito.

(21-06-2017 05:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ... Energy is the supernatural ...

Energy exists within nature; it is therefore, by definition, natural.

(21-06-2017 05:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ... does a tree fall if your not there i mean the cat can be dead and alive and somebody sees a train moving before somebody else does. ...

Yes, trees fall without me witnessing them all the time. Countless things in fact happen without my direct observation: that's a stupid pseudophilosophical question for children growing their minds, and stupid people that never learned the thought trick involved.
Schrodinger made up his hypothetical Cat in an attempt to parody and thereby discredit the seemingly counter-intuitive implications of Heisenberg's interpretations of quantum theory. Which, FYI, are now known to be accurate in respect to modern models; superposition is a quirk of how the universe operates, not magic.
Good job, you've figured out that people can notice different things and look in different directions.

Here's a puzzler for you, come back when you can give an apt description of the following, and take your time; due to the expansion of space, two stars can increase in distance from one another without ever having actually moved relative to one another.

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22-06-2017, 12:53 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(21-06-2017 04:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  im not a troll i just know im right.

If you would be as knowledgeable as you're confident then you could be interesting poster. As things stand you're just another troll, even more incoherent than rest of your kin.

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22-06-2017, 01:27 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
What do you hope to achieve socialist by coming to this forum and telling us that you "know you're right" about things? You realise anyone can do that, right?

If you're looking to convert people, you have an awfully long way to go. You don't just have to convince people your book is somehow true, you then have to say why we'd want anything to do with it. Your attempts to provide a more literal reading just makes your "God" even more evil and barbaric than a metaphorical reading. I couldn't care less how much of the Bible is true, I don't need religion. I don't need anyone telling me how to live, even "God". I don't respond to terroristic threats, nor bribes to compromise my morality.

You're not here for a discussion, because clearly you're entirely closed minded and won't even consider that you might be wrong. So I can only imagine you are here to just make yourself feel better, by pretending you have in some way challenged yourself.

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