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26-06-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 08:48 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  You forgot one important step there.
Ya see this kinda retarded god wasn't sure what to make for a mate for Adam, so, before he made Eve, they held "tryouts". (ahem) ... cough cough.

Genesis 2:18-20
The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him. Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was it's name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam none proved to be a suitable helper."

To be fair, the ewe did get a "second interview". Tongue

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26-06-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 06:17 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Listen to yourself unfogged. we couldnt even investigate it till mendal.

mendal? I assume you mean Mendel. Either way, so what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of...ry_thought

The idea of evolution long precedes either Mendel or Darwin. What was missing was the mechanism by which evolution works without needing a god. People before Darwin had noted the similarities and the apparent relationships between species because we aren't all gullible fools who just believe whatever sounds good.

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26-06-2017, 03:18 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 03:05 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(26-06-2017 06:17 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Listen to yourself unfogged. we couldnt even investigate it till mendal.

mendal? I assume you mean Mendel. Either way, so what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of...ry_thought

The idea of evolution long precedes either Mendel or Darwin. What was missing was the mechanism by which evolution works without needing a god. People before Darwin had noted the similarities and the apparent relationships between species because we aren't all gullible fools who just believe whatever sounds good.

It is kinda interesting what ancient people thought about this. They thought the tiny baby was "delivered" whole and intact by the father, into a "fertile womb of the mother" (they had no clue what a chromosome was), and they thought the blood "humors" of the mother (personality traits) were contributed by the mother's blood.

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26-06-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
So what evidence is there that say evolution doesnt need a god unfogged.
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26-06-2017, 10:56 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 10:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So what evidence is there that say evolution doesnt need a god unfogged.

1) We understand very well how DNA is passed down from generation to generation.

2) We understand how the frequencies of alleles in a gene pool change with each generation, as some traits are handed down to more offspring for various reasons, one of which is that the environment makes some parents more suited to surviving to produce offspring who also survive to make more offspring than others.

3) We understand that the accumulated changes to the gene pool causes it to alter and often to diverge after numerous generations, to the point that speciation can and does occur-- and at a measurable rate.

4) We see not one evidence that the cause of this occurrence, DNA, is anything other than a naturally-occurring chemical. Not only do we not observe any need for outside magical forces to somehow direct the processes described above, we don't observe any magical forces operating in the natural world.

5) We therefore conclude that even if there is a God and evolution is the mechanism of creation, that this God does not intervene, nor need to intervene, in the natural process of evolution by Natural Selection. (Hint: that's why it's called NATURAL Selection.)

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26-06-2017, 11:33 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
But humans are in the likeness of god where we are able to reason and understand. Its like kenetic energy it keeps going once it is started but it has a starting point.
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26-06-2017, 11:45 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
And you forgot it says mist came from the earth and it rained upon the earth.
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26-06-2017, 11:57 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 11:33 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But humans are in the likeness of god where we are able to reason and understand. Its like kenetic energy it keeps going once it is started but it has a starting point.

OH REALLY? So then you can draw me a picture of god then eh? I'd very much like to see one, since I was always told you can't see god, so that's one hell of a claim that humans are created in the likeness of an invisible space daddy. WAIT A SECOND? are you implying I"m invisible??!!! (heads to the nearest bank to test this out, gets shot, NOPE NOT INVISIBLE)

Or are you saying that humans are made in the image of god in other ways, like cruelty, stupidity, wishwashyness, general ignorance, hate, a general lack of the ability to make reconciliation with those wronged (on average, and for those who struggle with reading the short version would be a lack in the ability to forgive), vanity, pettiness, holding grudges, making stupid irrational and emotional decisions that are later regretted, making mistakes, making mistakes RIGHT AFTER realizing you made a mistake the first time, stupidly not learning from your previous two mistakes....

YUP in those things the god of the bible and humans are quite alike. Is this what you meant? If you can't see the similarities I've listed here clearly you need to actually READ your bible.

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27-06-2017, 12:00 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 10:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So what evidence is there that say evolution doesnt need a god unfogged.

You're trying to reverse the burden of proof here. The reality is there's no evidence at all that any kind of god or supernatural force is needed at ANY stage of the evolutionary process so far. So adding a god is adding something that is not needed, without a reason (other than you fancy the idea), and has NO evidence to point to it's existence. It's a stupid position you're taking here Socialist.

As a more direct answer to your question, we see evolution, we study it, and to a large degree we now understand it. And at no point does it require any god to function it's quite good at doing it's thing without any interference, HOWEVER we also interfere with evolution, both in labs and in our daily lives (Anyone want a bannana? lol or should we stick with dog breeds ect, all of it is part of evolution even when influenced or forced by us). So we have some ideas on what something would look like if an external non natural force was being applied to alter an evolutionary path.

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27-06-2017, 12:48 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(26-06-2017 10:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So what evidence is there that say evolution doesnt need a god unfogged.

Evolution much like Laplace have no need of that laughable "hypothesis". In other words science need no fairy tales. Deal with it.

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