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27-06-2017, 11:38 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
How come God is such a terrible author that he needs to send people just to make us understand what he's trying to say? And he sends people with contradictory ideas so it just confuses everything further.

Christians can't even agree on whether the very first story in the bible literal or metaphorical. You'd think that if they had any way of communicating with God, this would have been sorted out by now.

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27-06-2017, 11:44 PM (This post was last modified: 27-06-2017 11:55 PM by Free Thought.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-06-2017 10:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But please explain to me completly in full detail how life comes from mud. Like i understand they can form into complex compoundes but how does it become alive.

It's simple!
The naturally forming compounds merged with others, found greater reproductive success, were eaten by naturally occurring lipid membranes, thrived further and continued to alter over time, and bang; you have life.

While it is a looong way from perfect, we do have a working definition of life which provisionally suits the needs of biological science at the time of this writing; life is the condition of a thing which is either comprised of or is a cell(s), has homeostatic capability, undergoes metabolism, responds to stimuli in some manner, and is capable of reproduction.

Life is not a mystical thing; life, at the base of it, is nothing more than a checklist of traits; that which is alive is so merely due to the nature of functionality.

Why is this alive
[Image: 6a00d8341c5e1453ef019affe2a525970d-300wi]
And also this?
[Image: mjFntWW.jpg?1]

Because they both do the things on the list.

Ps. Science nerds, I know it's not an exact, for the purposes of this level of discussion it's enough.

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28-06-2017, 12:04 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-06-2017 11:44 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(27-06-2017 10:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But please explain to me completly in full detail how life comes from mud. Like i understand they can form into complex compoundes but how does it become alive.

It's simple!
The naturally forming compounds merged with others, found greater reproductive success, were eaten by naturally occurring lipid membranes, thrived further and continued to alter over time, and bang; you have life.

While it is a looong way from perfect, we do have a working definition of life which provisionally suits the needs of biological science at the time of this writing; life is the condition of a thing which is either comprised of or is a cell(s), has homeostatic capability, undergoes metabolism, responds to stimuli in some manner, and is capable of reproduction.

Life is not a mystical thing; life, at the base of it, is nothing more than a checklist of traits; that which is alive is so merely due to the nature of functionality.

Why is this alive
[Image: 6a00d8341c5e1453ef019affe2a525970d-300wi]
And also this?
[Image: mjFntWW.jpg?1]

Because they both do the things on the list.

Ps. Science nerds, I know it's not an exact, for the purposes of this level of discussion it's enough.

For the purposes of this discussion you prolly went way over SV's head lol but bravo for being willing to do what everyone else was too busy facepalming to do.

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28-06-2017, 12:08 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-06-2017 11:30 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(27-06-2017 09:23 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Why would your god need more glory ? If your god is perfect, then he already has a perfect amount of glory. How can a god have more than the perfect amount of glory ? If he doesn't already, then he *needs* more glory and is not a perfect god. What is this "glory" you think you can "give" ? What does that mean ?

Never mind that -- how can humans give glory to a god? It's analogous to having a toddler come running up to you with a crayon scribble and tell you that you just won the "World's Best Mom" award. It's cute and it's sweet, but not exactly something you'd put on your resumé.

But maybe that's exactly what god plans to do! (joking)

"ahem, it says on your resume Yaweh that the people of Earth loved you and said you were the best god ever. But I see from facebook that only some of them thought this... Try better next time if you want to work at divine burger...." (because in my imagination he's trying to get the only job he can which is flipping burgers, after all he sucks at balancing a checkbook so no way he's an accountant!)

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28-06-2017, 12:11 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 12:04 AM)JesseB Wrote:  
(27-06-2017 11:44 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  It's simple!
The naturally forming compounds merged with others, found greater reproductive success, were eaten by naturally occurring lipid membranes, thrived further and continued to alter over time, and bang; you have life.

While it is a looong way from perfect, we do have a working definition of life which provisionally suits the needs of biological science at the time of this writing; life is the condition of a thing which is either comprised of or is a cell(s), has homeostatic capability, undergoes metabolism, responds to stimuli in some manner, and is capable of reproduction.

Life is not a mystical thing; life, at the base of it, is nothing more than a checklist of traits; that which is alive is so merely due to the nature of functionality.

Why is this alive
[Image: 6a00d8341c5e1453ef019affe2a525970d-300wi]
And also this?
[Image: mjFntWW.jpg?1]

Because they both do the things on the list.

Ps. Science nerds, I know it's not an exact, for the purposes of this level of discussion it's enough.

For the purposes of this discussion you prolly went way over SV's head lol but bravo for being willing to do what everyone else was too busy facepalming to do.

Hah, that may be the case!

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28-06-2017, 12:26 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 12:11 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 12:04 AM)JesseB Wrote:  For the purposes of this discussion you prolly went way over SV's head lol but bravo for being willing to do what everyone else was too busy facepalming to do.

Hah, that may be the case!

Well add to that he doesn't understand biology, chemistry, and physics enough to teach his followers how to know how abiogenisys works. I mean.... there's 3 more jobs on the list god is unqualified for. He makes humans do all the work for him so clearly he's not gonna be out there building divine god houses for the poorer gods. Clearly the only option left is flipping burgers.... Man he really needs to put in some more effort if he wants to get the job.

oh and he kinda sucks at writing and communications, so yea that's out too.

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28-06-2017, 01:43 AM
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Is there a job that involves violently overreacting to extremely petty things? He'd be good at that.

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28-06-2017, 02:21 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:43 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  Is there a job that involves violently overreacting to extremely petty things? He'd be good at that.

I feel like President of the United States now qualifies.

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28-06-2017, 02:31 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
My understanding of abiogenesis is that it was a very slowly transition along a spectrum of non-life to life. It's the same way evolution produces changes extremely slowly over long periods of time. Life is a label we give things, and it doesn't simply reduce things to binary states. Life, as we like to call it, did not spring up fully formed from some sludge one day any more than an ape gave birth to a human.

There's a wealth of scientific information out there, but to be able to learn anything, dogmatic ideas about everything needing to correlate with a single book have to be dropped. And not knowing everything is not justification for making shit up.

(28-06-2017 02:21 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 01:43 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  Is there a job that involves violently overreacting to extremely petty things? He'd be good at that.

I feel like President of the United States now qualifies.

That would work well, since you also have to think you know everything while being a total moron.

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28-06-2017, 05:10 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(27-06-2017 10:23 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I dont Take from the church this is self study god has sent the holy spirit me to prove to you that the bible is real. Who fucking cares about the linguist it doesnt matter you get the picture of what its saying see you have no comprehension of the bible when it explains it to you. Yes god wants to help as he says in revelation but he says we dont want his help so let us all die to whatever we die by. Good Samaritan story dumbass jesus going out and healing people.

You do realize I hope that every insane nut-case in history thought some god or other sent them to do the same thing. You are insane. You're an ignoramus and an ignorant fool. You can't write a sentence in correct English. You couldn't explain anything to anyone if you tried. You know NOTHING about the Bible or anything else. We don't believe ANYTHING in the Bible comes from your fool god. Get it ? So stop telling us what "god says" in your fucking Bible. Your god exists ONLY in your insane mind. Nowhere else. There were HUNDREDS of Books of Revelation. They were humans making up shit. Not gods talking, you idiot.

(27-06-2017 10:27 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But please explain to me completly in full detail how life comes from mud. Like i understand they can form into complex compoundes but how does it become alive.

No you understand nothing. Go get yourself an education you fucking dumbass. Clearly in your case life didn't come from mud. Your brain is still mud.

Now fuck off, and get lost, loser. We've had enough of your bullshit. Tell your "holy spirit" you failed and are too ignorant and too stupid to do what it sent you here to do.

Time to ban this religious spamer.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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