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28-06-2017, 06:43 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein a hope for things not seen becuase you can only please god by faith. Like darwin had faith that his findings were accurate even though there were few fossils and hes dead now and were just actually accepting it with evidence that came in the 20th century. Sounds like hebrews 11 to me.
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28-06-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein a hope for things not seen becuase you can only please god by faith. Like darwin had faith that his findings were accurate even though there were few fossils and hes dead now and were just actually accepting it with evidence that came in the 20th century. Sounds like hebrews 11 to me.

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28-06-2017, 06:58 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein ...

Sorry to disappoint you, socialistview, but there will be no tribulation and no 1000-year reign. Y'see, I and My associates won the Apocalypse on April 2, 2001. (Zombie saints are sooooo stupid... trapped the lot of 'em in a dead-end valley without firing a shot or shedding a drop of blood, ours or theirs.) Big Grin

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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28-06-2017, 07:10 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Paul says nobody needs to teach you remember that.

And the author of Peter said...

Quote:1 Peter 3:15-16
But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behaviour in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Also other bible verse their ever reading and never percieving the truth.

Also, another bible verse said:

Quote:Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  I just think god caused evolution to happen. ...

So do the majority of believers. Congrats, you've managed to shove the square peg of God into the round hole of reality.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... Everything fits right were smarter ...

Bonobos social structure can be largely reduced down to 'dick over others, and into others, and around with others, and into others and.... because why not, we all benefit', most human societies can largely be reduced down to 'dick over most others around, unless I get something from it'. I daresay, we may be the most technologically advanced and knowledgeable of species, but smarter perhaps is a bit of a leap.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... and cant have sex with a goat and produce a human goat baby ...

That would make absolutely no sense and could never happen in a reality, with or without a god, assuming the basic laws of biology, and terminology, remained the same.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... fish and birds come first and mud is clay though ...

Sure, fish and birds came before we did. With merely a ~233.23 million years between them. And dinosaurs.

Also mud is not clay; mud is wet dirt, clays are metal-based phyllosilicate minerals formed in the presence of water from various metal and silicon ions found in rock or soil forms

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... just becuase you havent seen stuff in only 2000 years doesnt mean theres nothing there. ...

Right you are. And just because you personally haven't seen Carl the Puggapegacorn cooking meat rotisserie style using his horn, doesn't mean Carl isn't out there right now, preparing a wonderful barbecue.

(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... There could be a whole nother spectrum of things that you cant see right. And paul was timid and not a good speaker. ...

Yes, there are plenty of things I can't see right or even at all, many of which do in fact occupy a spectrum; the Electromagnetic spectrum. And whether or not Paul was a skilled orator is of little consequence at this time, don't you agree?

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28-06-2017, 07:18 AM (This post was last modified: 28-06-2017 08:19 AM by Free Thought.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein a hope for things not seen becuase you can only please god by faith. Like darwin had faith that his findings were accurate even though there were few fossils and hes dead now and were just actually accepting it with evidence that came in the 20th century. Sounds like hebrews 11 to me.

Nobody accepts Darwinian Evolution any more; his initial ideas of gradual change by natural selection were correct and have stood up to scientific scrutiny since he first published, but his understanding of the mechanisms of inheritance, and even his own selection were full of holes. Such gaps in understanding have since been patched up with the implementation of Mendel's work, and further bolstered and improved to the point of becoming a new beast entirely, due to the work of minds such as Fisher, Haldane, Write, Dobzhansky, and Ford.

What exists today is the Modern Synthesis, a vast improvement on the old understanding and framework.

Just as an aside; does anybody else here find it wonderfully amusing that people that use Darwin was the reason why they object to evolutionary theory have been left in the dust by the evolution of evolutionary theory?

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28-06-2017, 08:06 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Paul says nobody needs to teach you remember that.

Why should I care what Paul, if he existed and if he actually wrote it, said? I can see from experience that learning from others is important so Paul's advice is just wrong.

Quote:Also other bible verse their ever reading and never percieving the truth.

gibberish

Quote: I just think god caused evolution to happen.

Good for you. I don't see any reason to believe that. What evidebce can you show to convince me?

Quote: Everything fits right were smarter and cant have sex with a goat and produce a human goat baby fish and birds come first and mud is clay though

Some of us are smarter than most other species; some of us have yet to demonstrate that. Whatever red herring you were attempting with the human/goat hybrid is meaningless. Mud and clay are not the same thing.

Quote: just becuase you havent seen stuff in only 2000 years doesnt mean theres nothing there.

I's a pretty solid basis for a reasonable belief that there is nothing there. What is unreasonable is believing that there is something to it with no evidence to go on.

Quote: There could be a whole nother spectrum of things that you cant see right.

And the time to believe that is when there is evidence for it. Not before.

Quote: And paul was timid and not a good speaker.

So what? I care whether the evidence is there or not, not how dynamic the speaker is.

(28-06-2017 06:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein a hope for things not seen becuase you can only please god by faith.

Bullshit. Show ANY actual evidence. Free clue: the bible is the claim, not the evidence.

Quote: Like darwin had faith that his findings were accurate even though there were few fossils

No, Darwin had evidence not only from fossils but from decades of studying living creatures all over the world.

Quote: and hes dead now and were just actually accepting it with evidence that came in the 20th century. Sounds like hebrews 11 to me.

You do realize that you are arguing that we have much more evidence for evolution now so even if Darwin was premature in his beliefs we are now much more justified in holding them, right? Darwin himself is largely irrelevant to modern evolutionary theory; it is the ever-increasing bulk of evidence that makes it the best explanation we have. "Magic" doesn't quite cut it.

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28-06-2017, 08:11 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 07:18 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  Just as an aside; does anybody else here find it wonderfully amusing that people that use Darwin was the reason why they object to evolutionary theory have been left in the dust be the evolution of evolutionary theory?

What is especially funny is when they call us "Darwinists" like we worship him and accept everything he wrote as gospel. Maybe they picture us having little shrines to Darwin in a corner at home.

It's strange how they can't imagine not being a slave.

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28-06-2017, 01:01 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:37 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Everything fits right were smarter and cant have sex with a goat and produce a human goat baby fish.

Oh, I don't know about that, your posting history makes me question your parental lineage. Rolleyes

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28-06-2017, 01:05 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
But bonobos cant understand what they do. Theyll go instict if their environment changed unlike humans who can understand study what their going through and change. So the bibles correct fish and birds did come before humans and it has that he created animals then man. And those verse you gave have nothing to do from what i said. And you people are not spiritual there could be a whole spectrum of things beyond the physical world were like beginning to study things not even close to understanding how everything works.
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28-06-2017, 01:12 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Unfogged be balanced teacher and study yourself find new discoveries. We have mounts of religious evidence that people say theres greater forces than us out there everything patchy right now but the bible says we repeat history people go into unbelief and then something happens.
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