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28-06-2017, 01:22 PM (This post was last modified: 28-06-2017 01:30 PM by unfogged.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But bonobos cant understand what they do.

You have no clue to what extent bonobos understand what they do.

Quote:Theyll go instict if their environment changed unlike humans who can understand study what their going through and change.

Humans in general have a greater capacity for rational thought. Some are just better at it than others.

Quote: So the bibles correct fish and birds did come before humans and it has that he created animals then man.

That depends on which genesis story you read. It also isn't evidence of any divine knowledge because some mythmaker happened to get some general things somewhat right.

Quote: And those verse you gave have nothing to do from what i said. And you people are not spiritual there could be a whole spectrum of things beyond the physical world were like beginning to study things not even close to understanding how everything works.

When you show a shred of evidence for that we'll consider it. Until then, stamping your feet and saying "it might be" is pointless. If you want us to believe you are correct you need to demonstrate that you are right. "Spiritual" is a weasel word that has no actual meaning because it doesn't tie to anything demonstrably real.

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28-06-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 06:43 AM)socialistview Wrote:  Well we still have the tribulation to come and the thousand year rein a hope for things not seen becuase you can only please god by faith. Like darwin had faith that his findings were accurate even though there were few fossils and hes dead now and were just actually accepting it with evidence that came in the 20th century. Sounds like hebrews 11 to me.

Sorry, I'm still recovering from your indifference to rape. Especially hard to read your nonsense when you write it.

Can I at least ask why belief without evidence is God's utmost priority, when being loving and caring while you're alive seems much more important?

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28-06-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But bonobos cant understand what they do. Theyll go instict if their environment changed unlike humans who can understand study what their going through and change. So the bibles correct fish and birds did come before humans and it has that he created animals then man. And those verse you gave have nothing to do from what i said. And you people are not spiritual there could be a whole spectrum of things beyond the physical world were like beginning to study things not even close to understanding how everything works.

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28-06-2017, 01:29 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Unfogged be balanced teacher and study yourself find new discoveries.

Coming from somebody that believes based on their own interpretation of a single book, that's just hilarious. I have read the book. I've also read and listened to many other opinions. You have zero credibility when it comes to suggesting a balanced approach to anything.

Quote: We have mounts of religious evidence that people say theres greater forces than us out there

Evidence that people SAY something isn't evidence for that thing.

Quote:everything patchy right now

gibberish ignored

Quote:but the bible says we repeat history people go into unbelief and then something happens.

People believe all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. The fact that people believe is meaningless unless they can SHOW THE FUCKING EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE BELIEF. A book that people wrote 2000 years ago that says they believed is interesting from a sociological perspective but it tells us NOTHING about whether what they believed was true.

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28-06-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Unfogged be balanced teacher and study yourself find new discoveries. We have mounts of religious evidence that people say theres greater forces than us out there everything patchy right now but the bible says we repeat history people go into unbelief and then something happens.

Putting your abhorrent grammar aside. If this was true then science would back up your claim. It does not.

I'm a computer science kinda guy, I have some training in digital forensics. If someone was going around overriding the code to alter the conditions of the world it would be discernible by forensics techniques. and essentially that's all most of science is, digging around using forensics techniques to understand the world better. If alterations were being made we'd constantly be seeing discrepancies that simply don't occur. The reason you have a computer to spread your insane mindless drivel is because the nature of the universe is consistent. The existence of a god would most likely result in a world where your computer could not exist or could not function reliably and be as well understood as it is.

So your claim that people "claim" to have proof for a good is prolly true, people talk out their ass all the time. My evidence? You talk out your ass all the time here we need look no further than that to see this is true. However if you're implying anyone has any actual REAL proof of a god well then you need to pull your head out of your ass, if such a thing existed it would be undeniable to all (your holy book says the same thing, yet it is deniable because there is NO fucking evidence).

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28-06-2017, 01:35 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:30 PM)JesseB Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 01:12 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Unfogged be balanced teacher and study yourself find new discoveries. We have mounts of religious evidence that people say theres greater forces than us out there everything patchy right now but the bible says we repeat history people go into unbelief and then something happens.

Putting your abhorrent grammar aside. If this was true then science would back up your claim. It does not.

I'm a computer science kinda guy, I have some training in digital forensics. If someone was going around overriding the code to alter the conditions of the world it would be discernible by forensics techniques. and essentially that's all most of science is, digging around using forensics techniques to understand the world better. If alterations were being made we'd constantly be seeing discrepancies that simply don't occur. The reason you have a computer to spread your insane mindless drivel is because the nature of the universe is consistent. The existence of a god would most likely result in a world where your computer could not exist or could not function reliably and be as well understood as it is.

So your claim that people "claim" to have proof for a good is prolly true, people talk out their ass all the time. My evidence? You talk out your ass all the time here we need look no further than that to see this is true. However if you're implying anyone has any actual REAL proof of a god well then you need to pull your head out of your ass, if such a thing existed it would be undeniable to all (your holy book says the same thing, yet it is deniable because there is NO fucking evidence).

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SV doesn't understand what falsifiable means, I seriously doubt if he's even capable intellectually of comprehending what it means.

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28-06-2017, 01:46 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 01:23 PM)Cosmo Wrote:  Sorry, I'm still recovering from your indifference to rape.

For the record: He is not indifferent to rape, he is apologizing rape (of females only, of course).

Quote:"I don't care about rape all women are sluts anyway it doesn't really harm them despite the emotional pridefulness they may have ..."

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28-06-2017, 02:50 PM
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Dude i see both sides Of the issue like i do everything why does the guy have the erge to rape a girl i dont think people just want to do wrong. But anyways the bible is saying you will have no evidence and your stupid self is saying i want evidence.
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28-06-2017, 03:08 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Feminizm has taken over the world which shows how great god is he doesnt care about his views just to give the oppressed their rights. But women can do anything walk around half naked kills babies and tell themselves they didnt.
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28-06-2017, 03:11 PM (This post was last modified: 28-06-2017 03:14 PM by JesseB.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 02:50 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Dude i see both sides Of the issue like i do everything why does the guy have the erge to rape a girl i dont think people just want to do wrong. But anyways the bible is saying you will have no evidence and your stupid self is saying i want evidence.

What's stupid is accepting any claim without evidence. How do you know you've not been fooled into believing a lie? You have NO evidence that you haven't! You just have your insistence that you are right because you've fooled yourself, you've convinced yourself, and now you have dug that hole so deep nothing can bring you back to reality.

No only one person is being stupid here.

Also... that thing you said about rape.... that's the same kinda logic that protects child molesters. Look it's one thing to be attracted to someone and be rejected by them or whatever convoluted thing goes through a persons mind before the commit a crime any crime really, but we're talking rape here so.... the only side is they have committed a crime. They have caused harm to another person, and violated them in one of the worst possible ways. This is why people condemn them and are right to do so. And considering there's at least a few people who have been raped reading your words the side you SHOULD be aware of and considering is their side as they don't appreciate you apologizing for their abusers/attackers/the scumbags who harmed them. Rape is not ok dude, and there isn't a situation that justifies it. So no you are wrong. Flat out wrong.

And on a personal note because I'm one of those reading who have been through that experience... FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.

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