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28-06-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 07:47 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its like you have no hope for your life your just going to live poor for the rest of your life becuase you cant see any visible venue to lead you towards riches. But you could actually become rich even if you become rich when your sixty.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nihilist...e&ie=UTF-8

What? no dude, and it's nice you know what wiki is, but take it from a real Nihilist Gwaithmir may in fact be a humanist but the funny part of my joke earlier is I am an active Nihilist, and everyone knows it (it's even right there under my name) and I do in fact understand what it is and know for a fact you have this wrong.

It's not that I have no hope, it's that I understand that there is no fundamental or intrinsic meaning to the universe. With that knowledge and the understanding that Humans created gods I realize that I alone can create meaning in my life, and that is more profound and powerful than anything your religion can offer.


(28-06-2017 07:52 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 07:47 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its like you have no hope for your life your just going to live poor for the rest of your life becuase you cant see any visible venue to lead you towards riches. But you could actually become rich even if you become rich when your sixty.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nihilist...e&ie=UTF-8

> Nope! I'm a Humanist. I am also rich in the sense that I live a frugal life and have (or have had) everything I could possibly want. Big Grin

This man is very smart and good with money. I can only hope one day I can achieve his level of self awareness, self control, and wealth mixed with the wisdom to be as frugal as he is.

(28-06-2017 07:53 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 07:48 PM)socialistview Wrote:  God is both man and woman.


> Um.......any photos? Shocking

I provided video evidence Wink

(28-06-2017 08:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 07:52 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  > Nope! I'm a Humanist. I am also rich in the sense that I live a frugal life and have (or have had) everything I could possibly want. Big Grin

Becuase your a rich white mofo and content in not seeing african children pray to god becuase they have no other hope.

Yea no, Gwaithmir is one of the best most empathetic compassionate people I've ever known so fucking just no dude.

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28-06-2017, 09:05 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 08:44 PM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 08:39 PM)socialistview Wrote:  The earth is the female part of god.

So heaven is a dick?

What other insane non-sequiturs would you like to convey?

Hey I for one find the level of kinky in this discussion refreshing Wink

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28-06-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Reason why is becuase there has to be order and hes disrupting order and cause disfunction i mean what else they suppose to do to keep the order. .
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28-06-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 09:06 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Reason why is becuase there has to be order and hes disrupting order and cause disfunction i mean what else they suppose to do to keep the order. .

I'm beginning to think you're maybe schizophrenic you keep talking to no one.... Either that or you keep forgetting to quote the post that would add some level of understanding regarding what the fuck you're talking about...

However forgetting that I have no fucking clue what post your responding too her lets just analyze what it is you have in your response.

Damn... too easy.... baseless assertion. AKA meaningless nonsense. Try again please.

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28-06-2017, 09:37 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
You know what, SV? Since you refuse to use the quote function, how about you make a new thread, and pick one of us to talk with, it'll cut down on the confusion.

I volunteer.
In the mean time, I'm going to keep responding, because the weather isn't great, uni is off, and I therefor have nothing better to do with my time.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But bonobos cant understand what they do.

Actually, we know from studies done on bonobo interactions that they do know what they are doing. They engage in sex because they get pleasure from it; we know this because their birth rate is virtually identical to chimpanzees, their close cousin despite the constant sex, showing it is not a purely reproductive behaviour, also they partake in gay sex in both genders. It appears to have virtually supplanted aggressive social instincts present in closely related species like humans and chimpanzees. Bonobos do not rape, despite their apparent existence of debauchery.
And interesting article form 2006 (god I feel old now) by Dr. Frans De Waal on the subject of bonobo behaviour, should anybody care to read: https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...y-2006-06/

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Theyll go instict if their environment changed unlike humans who can understand study what their going through and change.

They may well go extinct due to environmental changes, but so could humans; extinction applies to all life. If circumstances change faster than adaptation can occur, the species dies.

That said, the vulnerability of a species to extinction is not a relevant indicator of intelligence, nor does it apply to what I said about them; I made the remark that bonobos are smarter than humans because they solve their problems with pleasurable activity; implying the human tendency of actively impairing and harming anybody around them for their own gain is stupid.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So the bibles correct fish and birds did come before humans and it has that he created animals then man.

Yes, if you ignore the worms that came before the fish, and the amphibians that came after the fish, and the repitles that came after them (specifically the dinosaurs which came before the birds).
And that insects came up all over the place.
And that plants also come out before.
And that these 'events' occurred over the course of hundreds of millions to a billion years, instead of days.
And that the sun was apparently made after photosynthetic organisms which require it to exist.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And those verse you gave have nothing to do from what i said.

Au contraire, mon ami, they have everything to do with what you said (about what Paul said.) The first verse, allegedly by the Apostle Peter said that it is your job as one of the faithful to provide answers as to your faith at any time in an honest and respectful manner, contradicting your 'quote', and your attitude I'd submit.

The second verse was to demonstrate absurdity in response to you making an absurd 'quote'.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And you people are not spiritual there could be a whole spectrum of things beyond the physical world were like beginning to study things not even close to understanding how everything works.

If there are things 'beyond the physical world', they they are irrelevant; they are outside of it, so they cannot interact with 'the physical world', and therefore have no consequence. This is made all the worse a position for you to take because as they are definitionally not part of the physical world and cannot interact with it, such things cannot actually be known in any practical sense, all you can do is stipulate them without reason.

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Ive had experiences becuase i please him by having faith and earnestly seek him.

So you've had hallucinations as ascribed them to your faith; well done.

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Athiest believe there is no god with no evidence that there is no god and u dont know about you

Moving right past the misunderstanding of atheism and negative vs positive claims and right into the rape apologetics...

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  but men are more aggressive when women are not and where loosing understanding of that and just being real with you only reason your so against it is becuase you get sex easily which lowers your desire right. Mabe theres men out there who cant get it as easy as you and yes emotions are a bitch.

I'm a man, at least a quick look at my crotch would seem to suggest that, and I've never had sex and never resorted to seeking it aggressively. This rambling nonsense you just spouted just enforces my point about bonobos.
Just because males can get all hard up and not get laid, doesn't justify raping people.

Furthermore, how do you explain rapes perpetrated by females?

(28-06-2017 06:14 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Your scum for killing a living thing and justify it.

Quote:Psalms 137:9
Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

(28-06-2017 08:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 07:52 PM)Gwaithmir Wrote:  > Nope! I'm a Humanist. I am also rich in the sense that I live a frugal life and have (or have had) everything I could possibly want. Big Grin

Becuase your a rich white mofo and content in not seeing african children pray to god becuase they have no other hope.

So what you are saying is that religious faith is the product of desperation, not rational thought? Never would have guessed. Also, shame on you for using the tragic deaths of countless people in poverty to try and score a point in an argument.

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28-06-2017, 10:04 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 09:37 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  You know what, SV? Since you refuse to use the quote function, how about you make a new thread, and pick one of us to talk with, it'll cut down on the confusion.

I volunteer.
In the mean time, I'm going to keep responding, because the weather isn't great, uni is off, and I therefor have nothing better to do with my time.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  But bonobos cant understand what they do.

Actually, we know from studies done on bonobo interactions that they do know what they are doing. They engage in sex because they get pleasure from it; we know this because their birth rate is virtually identical to chimpanzees, their close cousin despite the constant sex, showing it is not a purely reproductive behaviour, also they partake in gay sex in both genders. It appears to have virtually supplanted aggressive social instincts present in closely related species like humans and chimpanzees. Bonobos do not rape, despite their apparent existence of debauchery.
And interesting article form 2006 (god I feel old now) by Dr. Frans De Waal on the subject of bonobo behaviour, should anybody care to read: https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...y-2006-06/

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Theyll go instict if their environment changed unlike humans who can understand study what their going through and change.

They may well go extinct due to environmental changes, but so could humans; extinction applies to all life. If circumstances change faster than adaptation can occur, the species dies.

That said, the vulnerability of a species to extinction is not a relevant indicator of intelligence, nor does it apply to what I said about them; I made the remark that bonobos are smarter than humans because they solve their problems with pleasurable activity; implying the human tendency of actively impairing and harming anybody around them for their own gain is stupid.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  So the bibles correct fish and birds did come before humans and it has that he created animals then man.

Yes, if you ignore the worms that came before the fish, and the amphibians that came after the fish, and the repitles that came after them (specifically the dinosaurs which came before the birds).
And that insects came up all over the place.
And that plants also come out before.
And that these 'events' occurred over the course of hundreds of millions to a billion years, instead of days.
And that the sun was apparently made after photosynthetic organisms which require it to exist.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And those verse you gave have nothing to do from what i said.

Au contraire, mon ami, they have everything to do with what you said (about what Paul said.) The first verse, allegedly by the Apostle Peter said that it is your job as one of the faithful to provide answers as to your faith at any time in an honest and respectful manner, contradicting your 'quote', and your attitude I'd submit.

The second verse was to demonstrate absurdity in response to you making an absurd 'quote'.

(28-06-2017 01:05 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And you people are not spiritual there could be a whole spectrum of things beyond the physical world were like beginning to study things not even close to understanding how everything works.

If there are things 'beyond the physical world', they they are irrelevant; they are outside of it, so they cannot interact with 'the physical world', and therefore have no consequence. This is made all the worse a position for you to take because as they are definitionally not part of the physical world and cannot interact with it, such things cannot actually be known in any practical sense, all you can do is stipulate them without reason.

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Ive had experiences becuase i please him by having faith and earnestly seek him.

So you've had hallucinations as ascribed them to your faith; well done.

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Athiest believe there is no god with no evidence that there is no god and u dont know about you

Moving right past the misunderstanding of atheism and negative vs positive claims and right into the rape apologetics...

(28-06-2017 03:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  but men are more aggressive when women are not and where loosing understanding of that and just being real with you only reason your so against it is becuase you get sex easily which lowers your desire right. Mabe theres men out there who cant get it as easy as you and yes emotions are a bitch.

I'm a man, at least a quick look at my crotch would seem to suggest that, and I've never had sex and never resorted to seeking it aggressively. This rambling nonsense you just spouted just enforces my point about bonobos.
Just because males can get all hard up and not get laid, doesn't justify raping people.

Furthermore, how do you explain rapes perpetrated by females?

(28-06-2017 06:14 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Your scum for killing a living thing and justify it.

Quote:Psalms 137:9
Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

(28-06-2017 08:35 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Becuase your a rich white mofo and content in not seeing african children pray to god becuase they have no other hope.

So what you are saying is that religious faith is the product of desperation, not rational thought? Never would have guessed. Also, shame on you for using the tragic deaths of countless people in poverty to try and score a point in an argument.

How old are you becuase if you passed 22 im incredibly proud that you never had sex before thats far beyond me. If the sex life was fair i would agree. But can bonobos change into a monogamous heterosexual relationship or is it the character trait to seek pleasure. And a thousand years is like a day to god. You should read genesis 1 and 2 and see where it fails with evolution clay is the building block of life but you cant tell me how something lifeless comes to life. And put the whole psalm see what its talking about. And my experiences i wanted god to talk to me through people and he did like the person said something is telling me to tell you this literally.
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28-06-2017, 10:06 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
And after the night comes a brighter day. That is what god does to bring you into thinking about how you live your life.
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28-06-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 10:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 09:37 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  You know what, SV? Since you refuse to use the quote function, how about you make a new thread, and pick one of us to talk with, it'll cut down on the confusion.

I volunteer.
In the mean time, I'm going to keep responding, because the weather isn't great, uni is off, and I therefor have nothing better to do with my time.


Actually, we know from studies done on bonobo interactions that they do know what they are doing. They engage in sex because they get pleasure from it; we know this because their birth rate is virtually identical to chimpanzees, their close cousin despite the constant sex, showing it is not a purely reproductive behaviour, also they partake in gay sex in both genders. It appears to have virtually supplanted aggressive social instincts present in closely related species like humans and chimpanzees. Bonobos do not rape, despite their apparent existence of debauchery.
And interesting article form 2006 (god I feel old now) by Dr. Frans De Waal on the subject of bonobo behaviour, should anybody care to read: https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...y-2006-06/


They may well go extinct due to environmental changes, but so could humans; extinction applies to all life. If circumstances change faster than adaptation can occur, the species dies.

That said, the vulnerability of a species to extinction is not a relevant indicator of intelligence, nor does it apply to what I said about them; I made the remark that bonobos are smarter than humans because they solve their problems with pleasurable activity; implying the human tendency of actively impairing and harming anybody around them for their own gain is stupid.


Yes, if you ignore the worms that came before the fish, and the amphibians that came after the fish, and the repitles that came after them (specifically the dinosaurs which came before the birds).
And that insects came up all over the place.
And that plants also come out before.
And that these 'events' occurred over the course of hundreds of millions to a billion years, instead of days.
And that the sun was apparently made after photosynthetic organisms which require it to exist.


Au contraire, mon ami, they have everything to do with what you said (about what Paul said.) The first verse, allegedly by the Apostle Peter said that it is your job as one of the faithful to provide answers as to your faith at any time in an honest and respectful manner, contradicting your 'quote', and your attitude I'd submit.

The second verse was to demonstrate absurdity in response to you making an absurd 'quote'.


If there are things 'beyond the physical world', they they are irrelevant; they are outside of it, so they cannot interact with 'the physical world', and therefore have no consequence. This is made all the worse a position for you to take because as they are definitionally not part of the physical world and cannot interact with it, such things cannot actually be known in any practical sense, all you can do is stipulate them without reason.


So you've had hallucinations as ascribed them to your faith; well done.


Moving right past the misunderstanding of atheism and negative vs positive claims and right into the rape apologetics...


I'm a man, at least a quick look at my crotch would seem to suggest that, and I've never had sex and never resorted to seeking it aggressively. This rambling nonsense you just spouted just enforces my point about bonobos.
Just because males can get all hard up and not get laid, doesn't justify raping people.

Furthermore, how do you explain rapes perpetrated by females?




So what you are saying is that religious faith is the product of desperation, not rational thought? Never would have guessed. Also, shame on you for using the tragic deaths of countless people in poverty to try and score a point in an argument.

How old are you becuase if you passed 22 im incredibly proud that you never had sex before thats far beyond me. If the sex life was fair i would agree. But can bonobos change into a monogamous heterosexual relationship or is it the character trait to seek pleasure. And a thousand years is like a day to god. You should read genesis 1 and 2 and see where it fails with evolution clay is the building block of life but you cant tell me how something lifeless comes to life. And put the whole psalm see what its talking about. And my experiences i wanted god to talk to me through people and he did like the person said something is telling me to tell you this literally.

That right there is literally fucking crazy talk. I would refer you to the DSM 5, you're displaying textbook indicators of schizophrenia now. I strongly suggest you seek professional medical help.

I don't know who this quote is from but "If you talk to god, you're religious. If god talks to you, you're crazy"

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28-06-2017, 10:30 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(28-06-2017 08:42 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 08:22 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  No one cares what you think you're doing. You're REALLY BAD at it.

The Bible is full of hated and evil.

"Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Do you plan on murdering your disobedient children ? The Bible says to do it.

I would kick him out the house that should be the equivalent.

Stoning someone to DEATH is not the equivalent, mofo.

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28-06-2017, 10:41 PM
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(28-06-2017 10:09 PM)JesseB Wrote:  
(28-06-2017 10:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How old are you becuase if you passed 22 im incredibly proud that you never had sex before thats far beyond me. If the sex life was fair i would agree. But can bonobos change into a monogamous heterosexual relationship or is it the character trait to seek pleasure. And a thousand years is like a day to god. You should read genesis 1 and 2 and see where it fails with evolution clay is the building block of life but you cant tell me how something lifeless comes to life. And put the whole psalm see what its talking about. And my experiences i wanted god to talk to me through people and he did like the person said something is telling me to tell you this literally.

That right there is literally fucking crazy talk. I would refer you to the DSM 5, you're displaying textbook indicators of schizophrenia now. I strongly suggest you seek professional medical help.

I don't know who this quote is from but "If you talk to god, you're religious. If god talks to you, you're crazy"

You can ask my teacher my moms friend some random dude one of my preachers son and that preachers wife.
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