Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
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07-06-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Where to begin?

(07-06-2017 05:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Choose between good and evil ...

Okay.

According to the bible, your god:

Drowned the vast majority of life on earth simply because some middle-eastern primitives annoyed him.

Hardened Pharaoh's heart so god could murder Egyptian babies.

Rewarded Abraham for trying to sacrifice his child.

Accepted Jephthah's sacrifice of his daughter.

Established the rules for slavery.

And the rules for rape.

Created hell: eternal, ultimate torture for mortal sins. Or for simply not hearing about jesus.

Question: What kind of sick fuck tortures babies for not accepting god's word?

Good or evil?

Secular Humanist Ethics:
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

(From the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights)

Biblical Christian Ethics:
Mark: 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Fuck you and fuck your imaginary god.

(07-06-2017 05:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  becuase the bible says god let adam choose the names of the animals.

If that were comprehensible, that would be a non-sequitur. IF being the operative word.

(07-06-2017 05:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And mabe that wasnt god intention to let abraham almost sacrifice his son but that would be a good test of loyalty speaking were your just listening to a voice in your head.

Except Abraham was REWARDED specifically FOR trying to sacrifice his son.

And of course, there's good ol' Jephthah....

And lastly, as so many have already told you,

The bible is the CLAIM, not the EVIDENCE.

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07-06-2017, 07:16 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(07-06-2017 05:04 PM)socialistview Wrote:  And mabe that wasnt god intention to let abraham almost sacrifice his son but that would be a good test of loyalty speaking were your just listening to a voice in your head.

Regardless of the tester's intention, the key to passing the test was exactly what I said it was: readiness to commit human sacrifice. Readiness to commit human sacrifice out of loyalty to God is still readiness to commit human sacrifice.

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07-06-2017, 08:43 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
I don't understand how this is difficult. In the Canaanite Pantheon, Yahweh was the god of war. Does this not automatically disqualify him from being good? Would he not, by even the most basic human standards, be considered more worshipable perhaps, if he was the god of peace? Or if he had committed acts of peace all over the OT?

Desperately and unsuccesfully trying to morph him into a God of peace in the NT by blood sacrificing your God-Child doesn't count BTW. That also, isn't very normal.

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07-06-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
He was probably considered many different thing in many different cultures around that area but cant you see that this bible claim before it is proven becuase a theory is only a theory but cant you see that its trying to explain compassion throughout the whole bible. The message is the same everything coincides with each other throughout the whole bible. Hes many things el shaddie elo him el sholom.
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07-06-2017, 09:20 PM
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07-06-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Im black
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07-06-2017, 09:36 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Since i believe in all religions i wouldnt have a problem with my god in another religion matter of fact that was the whole reason why god wanted pharoah to be stubborn to show his power over all the other gods as it is described in the bible.
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07-06-2017, 09:49 PM
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Forgot to add this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotques...e-god.html
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08-06-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(07-06-2017 09:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Forgot to add this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotques...e-god.html
...dispiriting...
Please link a better article.
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08-06-2017, 03:40 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(23-05-2017 07:49 PM)socialistview Wrote:  A jewish friend told me that God Yaweh from the jewish religion says that all others religions did human sacrifices and By law God gave said to not do human sacrifices. As i studied more into the canaan conquest i have read that the canaans already knew about what God did for the jews in egypt(to add to my argument my jewish friend told me that when the isrealites were laugh at the egyptian soldiers drowning God said those are my children too just they needed to be punished for oppressing.) and trembled but did not change their ways. Do you think its was still unjustified for god to genocidally kill canaan for human sacrifice? Blush

we can't talk about how they obtained their dinner back then. We have little concept in america what happens when there are no rules and people are starving to death. But we will soon enough.

Be that as it may. I would never kill in an offensive manner, meaning going to take stuff I already have, in the name of god or country. I would in the name of resources. Obviously I would try a reasonable approach first, but when its time for the sun to go down and we have to eat or have fresh water, we do what we have to do.

of course, I don't believe in being told what to do by their god. that being said, it doesn't mean i have to toss reason to the wind.
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