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31-08-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Like you believe we luckily became to be and even that's not really possible.

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31-08-2017, 10:15 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(31-08-2017 10:08 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Like you believe we luckily became to be and even that's not really possible.

https://www.outerplaces.com/science/item...e-universe

Clear case of the fallacy of the argument from authority fallacy.
1. His after-life is not the subject of science, and there is no way to test it.
2. He is a scientist, not an authority of anything else.

Humans evolved in a universe in which order arises spontaneously, (Chaos Theory).
So yes. One can conclude life happened subsequent to a process which may have originally been random, but was not after the first steps happened. Of course you know nothing about Probability or Biochemistry.

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31-08-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(31-08-2017 09:03 PM)socialistview Wrote:  scientist have dected orbs in the sky.
That's called the sun sugar, been around for a while. Drinking Beverage

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31-08-2017, 10:58 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
I wonder if some peoples' brains just cannot handle the possibility of no one being in charge.

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01-09-2017, 01:47 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(31-08-2017 10:04 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:00 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  Fair enough, I'll be quiet haha.

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Cheers buddy Popcorn

(31-08-2017 10:16 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:15 AM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  Please don't, I really don't mind when people give me a bit of a lashing. Honestly keeps my head on tighter lol Never be afeared to speak your mind, I really don't have a problem with it, as I can get a bit carried away lol

In your case, your mind isn't worth being spoken Drinking Beverage
It's probably in the other thread now, but I have to say:

At first I was all like "oh man, don't have a go at him, he's mentally unable to understand stuff like this and/or is having a bit of mental break down. But after seeing that last reply, fuck it, go for it Whiskey. Guys a troll of the highest order and deserves to be treated like one.

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01-09-2017, 03:19 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(01-09-2017 01:47 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:04 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  *hands OakTree some popcorn* Popcorn
Cheers buddy Popcorn

(31-08-2017 10:16 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  In your case, your mind isn't worth being spoken Drinking Beverage
It's probably in the other thread now, but I have to say:

At first I was all like "oh man, don't have a go at him, he's mentally unable to understand stuff like this and/or is having a bit of mental break down. But after seeing that last reply, fuck it, go for it Whiskey. Guys a troll of the highest order and deserves to be treated like one.

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01-09-2017, 03:34 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
Dunning-Kruger effect.

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01-09-2017, 03:52 AM (This post was last modified: 01-09-2017 03:57 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(31-08-2017 09:36 PM)Astreja Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 09:03 PM)socialistview Wrote:  scientist have dected orbs in the sky. And What else new technology do they have to try to discover God I guess then I guess.

Orbs? Be more specific, please. What do you mean by "orbs"? What scientists? In what journal was their work published?

There is currently no technology that can discover gods. It's not even clear what a god is supposed to be, or where we would begin looking for it.

I have one suggestion, though: If a god is not in this universe but somewhere else, it could not act upon anything in this universe without leaving some sort of energy trail. If we ever find that there's an energy imbalance and a trail that suddenly vanishes, that would be something worth investigating.

I'm here to nit-pick. Wink

We're not going to get far without defining what exactly we mean by 'god', an act which is in and of itself is a debate stopper for just about all but the most deluded or ignorant of theists.

Setting that aside, even if there was to be some sort of anomalous detection or energy or mass, we'd have no reason to even toss the tiniest of bones towards supernatural explanations. Gaps in our knowledge or understanding might be given place-holder names (such as Dark Matter or Dark Energy), that we use to facilitate communication. Then we observe, gather evidence, until those place-holders are more than just convenient names. A deity is not needed to explain Dark Matter, as the name itself was just a place holder for the missing mass that we should expect to see in the universe given our understanding of nature. However scientists have since been able to detect, verify, and even measure masses of Dark Matter with new techniques such as gravitational lensing. We're not sure of exactly what it is, but we can be sure beyond a reasonable doubt that it exists, because we have observed it's demonstrable affect on the universe.

A god was not needed at any point to fill in the gaps of our understanding, as being honest about the limits of what we do and do not know is the best way to push forward into the unknown. Assuming that the missing matter was instead the work of a god, would have done nothing to expand our understanding of the Dark Matter phenomena.

So even if we were to detect or observe something that fundamentally breaks or contradicts our understanding of nature, it still would not be evidence of a deity, but rather just evidence that there are more layers of understanding how things actually work that we've yet to unveil.

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01-09-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(01-09-2017 01:47 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(31-08-2017 10:04 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  *hands OakTree some popcorn* Popcorn
Cheers buddy Popcorn

(31-08-2017 10:16 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  In your case, your mind isn't worth being spoken Drinking Beverage
It's probably in the other thread now, but I have to say:

At first I was all like "oh man, don't have a go at him, he's mentally unable to understand stuff like this and/or is having a bit of mental break down. But after seeing that last reply, fuck it, go for it Whiskey. Guys a troll of the highest order and deserves to be treated like one.

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My troll radar is strong lol

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01-09-2017, 08:48 PM
RE: Sorry for the last post wrong word but to ask is God actually a bad guy.
(01-09-2017 03:52 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  ...Even if there was to be some sort of anomalous detection or energy or mass, we'd have no reason to even toss the tiniest of bones towards supernatural explanations. Gaps in our knowledge or understanding might be given place-holder names (such as Dark Matter or Dark Energy), that we use to facilitate communication. Then we observe, gather evidence, until those place-holders are more than just convenient names. A deity is not needed to explain Dark Matter, as the name itself was just a place holder for the missing mass that we should expect to see in the universe given our understanding of nature. However scientists have since been able to detect, verify, and even measure masses of Dark Matter with new techniques such as gravitational lensing. We're not sure of exactly what it is, but we can be sure beyond a reasonable doubt that it exists, because we have observed it's demonstrable affect on the universe.

I'll concede that point. If we do find something mysterious, it could lead to a god, but far more likely it'll lead to something utterly un-supernatural that results in another scientific advance.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs are much too silly to take seriously. Got anything else we can discuss?
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