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15-04-2017, 12:24 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:07 PM)Alla Wrote:  Satan takes what is good and true and corrupts it.

Which he would only be able to do with your god's permission. Drinking Beverage
Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.

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15-04-2017, 12:26 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)SeaJay Wrote:  The Christadelphians teach that the serpent was just that, a serpent. That said, they also teach there is no actual devil, that the 'devil' is nothing more than a symbolic (anthropomorphic?) representation of humankind's propensity to sin.

I don't believe that this teaching is true.

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15-04-2017, 12:28 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)SeaJay Wrote:  The Christadelphians teach that the serpent was just that, a serpent. That said, they also teach there is no actual devil, that the 'devil' is nothing more than a symbolic (anthropomorphic?) representation of humankind's propensity to sin.

I don't believe that this teaching is true.
It is a rare type of belief to be fair

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15-04-2017, 12:40 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which he would only be able to do with your god's permission. Drinking Beverage
Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.
Where did you get this line of reasoning from?

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15-04-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:40 PM)SeaJay Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.
Where did you get this line of reasoning from?

hehe, can't help myself. This is a really good watch.



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15-04-2017, 12:49 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which he would only be able to do with your god's permission. Drinking Beverage
Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.

Yin and yang. I'm telling you Alla, Mormons are Buddhists. Big Grin

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15-04-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:44 PM)JesseB Wrote:  hehe, can't help myself. This is a really good watch.



must resist .... must resist .... must res .... must ... ah fuck it. EllenJanuary explains the Book of Job better than most.




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15-04-2017, 01:02 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:21 PM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Which he would only be able to do with your god's permission. Drinking Beverage
Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.

So according to your reasoning...

Your god creates mankind.
Your god knew before he created mankind that mankind would be sinful.
Your god could have made mankind incapable of sin, but chose not to do so.
Your god wanted mankind to be sinful.

Your god created satan.
Your god knew before he created satan that he would be sinful and corrupt mankind further.
Your god could have created satan incapable of sin and corruption, but chose not to do so.
Your god wanted satan to be sinful and to corrupt mankind further.

Your god created hell, ultimate suffering, an eternal lake of fire, endless furnace, etc.
Your god created hell planning to use it to torture sentient, weaker beings that he created.
Your god knew in advance that he would torture these beings, that he called his children.
Your god could have come up with other methods of teaching and/or punishing his "children", but he did not.
Your god wanted to torture weaker, sentient beings that he created.

There are no words capable of describing that kind of twisted, sadistic, evil.

That is not a god of love.

That is a pathetic tyrant, taking sick pleasure in tormenting creatures that he created to fail.

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15-04-2017, 01:09 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  Exactly, because it must be an opposition in all things.

Yin and yang. I'm telling you Alla, Mormons are Buddhists. Big Grin

Called it. Big Grin

How Mormons Are Buddhists & Vice Versa

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15-04-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: Spin-off of Why I believe
(15-04-2017 12:44 PM)JesseB Wrote:  
(15-04-2017 12:40 PM)SeaJay Wrote:  Where did you get this line of reasoning from?

hehe, can't help myself. This is a really good watch.



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