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06-12-2011, 09:24 AM
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 09:11 AM)Zatamon Wrote:  
(06-12-2011 09:00 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  I agree that some rule are nescessary, but a code of conduct? That's what it sounds like you want. If so, I'd like to hear that code spelled out.

Before I make further suggestions, I have a question: what are the warning levels used for? Has it ever been used? If yes, then what, why, and how?

This. If you can issue a certain percentage then soemthign like this would work.

Multiple Accounts - permaban
Porn (actual nipple, penis, or vagina) - 1 month ban
Gore - 99% warning
racism - 50% warning
obscene name calling - 25% warning
trolling or attention whoring - 10% warning
blasphemy - repped


etc
etc

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06-12-2011, 09:35 AM
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I just wrote a whole page of rant and deleted it. It all boils down to COOL THE FUCK OUT so I figured I'd rewrite it in short form. Oh and add, if you don't like it don't participate. Oh and pants are delightful.

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06-12-2011, 09:39 AM
 
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
Okay so everyone here wants to know the real me right? Well, here it goes.

Filox, I don't appreciate the dickass comments said about itsFerdinand. I don't even care about what you said about me, she's my best friend and doesn't deserve one lick of critisism. So yeah, just had to let you know.

Stark,thank you for allowing me and Ferdinand to have a second chance. I won't blow it this time.

Hughsie,you know how I feel about everything. Blush

Kim and germanyt, thank you for saying what you said about teenagers in general. Yes, I do like to learn from adults/those older than me in general. I most post some stupid shit, but it's because I would like some input on how to improve my situation and find ways to make the world a better place.

Those others that were not mentioned, I apologize. I'm trying to multitask between this and my Spanish work.
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06-12-2011, 09:51 AM
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I didn't appreciate getting tangled up in all of this, because I didn't do anything (Got home from the hospital last night and it's like "HEY ASSHOLE YOU'RE BANNED.") but hey, I'll get over it, and so should all of you.

Don't really understand why Filox has the biggest problem with it all, especially me, because I didn't complain or hurt anything or anyone in my other threads.

The actual delinquents are banned, so everyone, chill out. :|
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06-12-2011, 10:06 AM
 
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 09:00 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Zat,
I get what you're saying, but this really feels like the same way the government seems to work. "Here's what we don't like. Here's the problems. I suggest we fix them. No, I don't have any actual suggestions of how to go about it."
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I agree that some rule are necessary...

I am going to start a new thread on governance. I have already touched on the subject in a thread called "Government is a dirty word for some", but we need a higher level discussion before talking about percentages and warning levels.

Let's start with what I quoted above: "I agree that some rule are necessary"

We all know that -- none of us would vote to completely abandon every kind of governance.

We all live by some rules. We set rules to our children, we have rules at work, we have unwritten and written rules for acceptable social behavior.

I am now out of this thread and will think hard to come up with a theoretical model of governance for a community like ours and will post a thread soon on it.

I am a theoretical Physicist, I firmly believe in working out basic principles before talking about applications.

Please, bear with me, it may take a little time. Smile

ETA:

Taking the issue to another level, in another thread, talking generally instead of specifically (about the emotionally charged current issue) might allow us to step back and consider every angle with a cool and rational head.

At least, that is my suggestion. Undecided
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06-12-2011, 10:35 AM
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 10:06 AM)Zatamon Wrote:  
(06-12-2011 09:00 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Zat,
I get what you're saying, but this really feels like the same way the government seems to work. "Here's what we don't like. Here's the problems. I suggest we fix them. No, I don't have any actual suggestions of how to go about it."
....
I agree that some rule are necessary...

I am going to start a new thread on governance. I have already touched on the subject in a thread called "Government is a dirty word for some", but we need a higher level discussion before talking about percentages and warning levels.

Let's start with what I quoted above: "I agree that some rule are necessary"

We all know that -- none of us would vote to completely abandon every kind of governance.

We all live by some rules. We set rules to our children, we have rules at work, we have unwritten and written rules for acceptable social behavior.

I am now out of this thread and will think hard to come up with a theoretical model of governance for a community like ours and will post a thread soon on it.

I am a theoretical Physicist, I firmly believe in working out basic principles before talking about applications.

Please, bear with me, it may take a little time. Smile


I dont' think it's that serious man. But have fun.

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06-12-2011, 10:38 AM
 
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 10:35 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I dont' think it's that serious man. But have fun.

Thanks -- I will have some serious fun! Big Grin
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06-12-2011, 11:36 AM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2011 11:54 AM by Hughsie.)
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
To be honest I don't think we need to make any major changes. At the moment we have very few rules and a lot of grey area with Stark guiding everyone and making sure things don't get out of hand at his own discretion, AND IT WORKS!

The only change I would think is worth considering is to put a footnote on the rules reminding people that the administration can be held accountable for the content of the forum. Stark mentioned being liable earlier in this thread and, I've gotta be honest, that whole issue hadn't even occurred to me in the 8 months I've been here so there's a good chance that it hasn't occurred to a lot of people.

Best and worst of Ferdinand .....
Best
Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
Worst
Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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06-12-2011, 11:57 AM
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 10:35 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I dont' think it's that serious man. But have fun.

It wouldn't have been serious, if all the adults had recognized the sudden influx of juvies and their preferred subject matter: 100% genuine simulated naugahyde. Then it would have been ignored and perhaps subsided, instead of escalating. After the first two, i simply didn't open those dumb threads, and hoped they'd eventually run out of steam.
But since other people kept engaging them, they kept raising the ante.
In the last week or so, it's caused StarkRaving all kinds of headache, and forced him to take action that he finds distasteful. This makes it a problem.

Possibly an isolated problem, but don't count on that: forums run into this, and similar situations, all the time. The more magnetic a site, the more nuts and bolts it attracts. The options are:
1. Deal with each new problem as if it were unique (this is good in theory, but work-intensive and often controversial)
2. Make a specific safeguard against repetition of a problem after it's come up once
3. Try to build in flexible safeguards that cover the problems most likely to arise, but will stretch, or be easily modified, to new permutations or
4. Do nothing and let whatever happens happen.
Deciding which way to go is part of the maturing process. How the decision is made depends on who's in charge.

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06-12-2011, 12:12 PM
RE: Stark, could you please remove this post?
(06-12-2011 11:57 AM)Peterkin Wrote:  
(06-12-2011 10:35 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I dont' think it's that serious man. But have fun.

It wouldn't have been serious, if all the adults had recognized the sudden influx of juvies and their preferred subject matter: 100% genuine simulated naugahyde. Then it would have been ignored and perhaps subsided, instead of escalating. After the first two, i simply didn't open those dumb threads, and hoped they'd eventually run out of steam.
But since other people kept engaging them, they kept raising the ante.
In the last week or so, it's caused StarkRaving all kinds of headache, and forced him to take action that he finds distasteful. This makes it a problem.

Possibly an isolated problem, but don't count on that: forums run into this, and similar situations, all the time. The more magnetic a site, the more nuts and bolts it attracts. The options are:
1. Deal with each new problem as if it were unique (this is good in theory, but work-intensive and often controversial)
2. Make a specific safeguard against repetition of a problem after it's come up once
3. Try to build in flexible safeguards that cover the problems most likely to arise, but will stretch, or be easily modified, to new permutations or
4. Do nothing and let whatever happens happen.
Deciding which way to go is part of the maturing process. How the decision is made depends on who's in charge.


I must not have seen the threads people are refering to. Except of course for this one.

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