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08-10-2013, 09:39 PM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:38 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  
(08-10-2013 09:23 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  I'm skeptical about several aspects of it.

But, it does seem to have at least some credibility. Its worth thinking about at least. I think Jesus did exist... for the reasons Christopher Hitchens gave. Where the myths came from, and the messianic status... that's not so clear.

Come to think of it, why would Jews in Israel want to turn him into a messiah, when he so clearly didn't fit the prophesy?
Not all the jews believed that jesus was the messiah but a lot of them did which caused a split in the religion thus creating christianity. Today the jews are still waiting for their messiah. Oh..and what videos did you see about hitchens comments? I don't doubt you I just love watching themTongue
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08-10-2013, 09:39 PM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:23 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  I'm skeptical about several aspects of it.

But, it does seem to have at least some credibility. Its worth thinking about at least. I think Jesus did exist... for the reasons Christopher Hitchens gave. Where the myths came from, and the messianic status... that's not so clear.

Come to think of it, why would Jews in Israel want to turn him into a messiah, when he so clearly didn't fit the prophesy?

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...Saint-Paul

This should explain a good bit of it.

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08-10-2013, 10:33 PM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:38 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  Today the jews are still waiting for their messiah. Oh..and what videos did you see about hitchens comments? I don't doubt you I just love watching themTongue

Nope. Most Jews are not waiting for anything. Messianism was, and remains, a small sub- sect of Judaism. That's the line from Sunday school.

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08-10-2013, 10:34 PM (This post was last modified: 08-10-2013 10:38 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  [quote='Paranoidsam' pid='393113' dateline='1381289025']
I'm skeptical about several aspects of it.

But, it does seem to have at least some credibility. Its worth thinking about at least. I think Jesus did exist... for the reasons Christopher Hitchens gave. Where the myths came from, and the messianic status... that's not so clear.

Come to think of it, why would Jews in Israel want to turn him into a messiah, when he so clearly didn't fit the prophesy?

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08-10-2013, 10:35 PM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(08-10-2013 09:23 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  I'm skeptical about several aspects of it.

But, it does seem to have at least some credibility. Its worth thinking about at least. I think Jesus did exist... for the reasons Christopher Hitchens gave. Where the myths came from, and the messianic status... that's not so clear.

Come to think of it, why would Jews in Israel want to turn him into a messiah, when he so clearly didn't fit the prophesy?

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...Saint-Paul

This should explain a good bit of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc
And this explains some more.

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08-10-2013, 10:45 PM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 10:33 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(08-10-2013 09:38 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  Today the jews are still waiting for their messiah. Oh..and what videos did you see about hitchens comments? I don't doubt you I just love watching themTongue

Nope. Most Jews are not waiting for anything. Messianism was, and remains, a small sub- sect of Judaism. That's the line from Sunday school.
thanks for clearing that upSmile
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09-10-2013, 06:13 AM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
I'm looking forward to seeing his evidence too. I'm sure it will be discredited and ignored.
Billions of dollars a year flowing into the church will stop any evidence from seeing the light of day.

Either way, the title alone was enough to make me smile Big Grin

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09-10-2013, 06:25 AM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
Atwill's kind of a whack job, and any kind of "evidence" will be seen as a way "to attempt to discredit the Church." Tongue

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09-10-2013, 06:34 AM
RE: Story of Jesus Christ now proven to be a fabrication
(08-10-2013 09:38 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  Not all the jews believed that jesus was the messiah

I imagine it went something like this ...



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09-10-2013, 07:40 AM
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Quote:How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played." Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"

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