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06-05-2014, 12:54 PM
RE: Supreme Court Upholds Prayer At Government Meetings
This is the biggest bullshit quote on the matter:

"To hold that invocations must be nonsectarian would force the legislatures that sponsor prayers and the courts that are asked to decide these cases to act as supervisors and censors of religious speech," Kennedy wrote.

Bull...fucking...shit. Religious speech is not violated at all. Government, by separation of church and state, is NOT allowed to endorse religion because no religion represents all of the people. Government is supposed to represent ALL of the people of this nation. When government endorses religion that principle goes right out the window.

Religious speech is NOT violated by keeping prayer out of government meetings. When those politicians walk out the door at the end of their work day, they are completely free to do whatever religious shit they want on their own personal time. However, so long as they are in session doing a job where they are supposed to represent ALL of the American people, they need to keep their religious shit out of it.

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06-05-2014, 01:17 PM
RE: Supreme Court Upholds Prayer At Government Meetings
(06-05-2014 12:54 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  This is the biggest bullshit quote on the matter:

"To hold that invocations must be nonsectarian would force the legislatures that sponsor prayers and the courts that are asked to decide these cases to act as supervisors and censors of religious speech," Kennedy wrote.

Bull...fucking...shit. Religious speech is not violated at all. Government, by separation of church and state, is NOT allowed to endorse religion because no religion represents all of the people. Government is supposed to represent ALL of the people of this nation. When government endorses religion that principle goes right out the window.

Religious speech is NOT violated by keeping prayer out of government meetings. When those politicians walk out the door at the end of their work day, they are completely free to do whatever religious shit they want on their own personal time. However, so long as they are in session doing a job where they are supposed to represent ALL of the American people, they need to keep their religious shit out of it.

Alito alluded to this more or less - that goverment prayer doesn't represent all the people - but totally missed the larger point:
Quote:"Not only is there no historical support for the proposition that only generic prayer is allowed," Alito said, "but as our country has become more diverse, composing a prayer that is acceptable to all members of the community who hold religious beliefs has become harder and harder."
Well duh, so then eliminate it moron! I don't get how a person makes such a statement and then concludes that the "solution" is simply one that says "who cares" about some of the people. And he did forget about people who hold no religious belief too at all too. Dodgy

@DonaldTrump, Patriotism is not honoring your flag no matter what your country/leader does. It's doing whatever it takes to make your country the best it can be as long as its not violent.
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06-05-2014, 01:26 PM
RE: Supreme Court Upholds Prayer At Government Meetings
(06-05-2014 01:17 PM)Impulse Wrote:  And he did forget about people who hold no religious belief too at all too. Dodgy

They're covered by the silences between the droning.

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06-05-2014, 03:23 PM
RE: Supreme Court Upholds Prayer At Government Meetings
(06-05-2014 10:29 AM)Minimalist Wrote:  Andy Borowitz:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/bo...20%2868%29

Quote:WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) — In what legal experts are calling a landmark decision, on Monday the United States Supreme Court struck down what many believe to be the main reason the country was started.

By a five-to-four vote, the Court eliminated what grade-school children have traditionally been taught was one of the key rationales for founding the United States in the first place.

“The separation of church and state has been a cornerstone of American democracy for over two hundred years,” said Justice Samuel Alito, writing for the majority. “Getting rid of it was long overdue.”

I'm glad that is satire!
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06-05-2014, 10:37 PM
RE: Supreme Court Upholds Prayer At Government Meetings
(06-05-2014 10:41 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(06-05-2014 10:39 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  The SCOTUS also upheld slavery as legal once. Two steps forward, one step back.
All these old Catholic dudes will be gone in a few years. This sort of crap will be gone in another generation. 75 years ago, atheism was equated with "Communism" etc etc and Madeline Murray O'Hare was a pariah. Things change ... slowly. Whenever they start praying in meetings I always (very politely, and with a smile) excuse myself, and say I have "to go to the rest-room". It's my personal way of saying "piss on you and and prayers".

Sorry, but america is going "backwards" by your standard. It's already pretty much a theocracy.

America is a klepto-plutocracy. Rule by rich thieves.

This religion shit is just to give the ignorant something to feel good about while the upper 1% steals everything that isn't nailed down.

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