THIS is why Christianity is the RIGHT religion
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12-12-2014, 11:00 AM
RE: THIS is why Christianity is the RIGHT religion
(09-12-2014 12:19 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(09-12-2014 11:59 AM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  Forgive me if I found you implied such without actually stating it, since you insisted the many German Christians allowed the Nazis tyrannical reign as if 1) Hitler was majority elected to Chancellor, which he was not 2) he didn't seize ultimate power in several coups such as the night of the long knives, becoming chancellor after pressuring von Hindenburg, etc. 3) the Christians ALL stood passively by during Nazi atrocities rather than sheltering the weak 4) ...you know as well as I do the Nazis had the WEAPONS. Christians neither elected Hitler leader nor were "happy" with his reign of terror.

I don't think anybody implied that Christians ALL stood passively by or were supporters of the Nazi regime. Black & White thinking like that is seldom useful.

Do you agree that Hitler wrote and spoke about doing the lord's work by eliminating the Jews? Do you agree that he used religious terminology in many of his speeches in order to engender support for his aims? Do you agree that many of the Nazi officers and party members called themselves Christians and that many believed that persecuting the Jews was in accordance with their religious beliefs?

What Hitler actually believed is impossible to say. His writings indicate belief but that could be calculated for the effect. The point for me is that that effect exists and the anti-Jewish sentiment of the Christian religion was a factor in the events.

Quote: Perhaps we can resolve this is true, both of us, before moving to Stalin, whom Wikipedia calls an atheist. Angel

He was. He also had a lot of other bad ideas and beliefs despite being free of that one.

Do you see a problem that you claimed in the same post that we don't know what Hitler believed while also quoting from among MANY documents and records where he stated his beliefs? We don't know EVERYTHING Hitler thought but we have his collected "wisdom" over the decades.

I know he used religious terminology and frequently quoted the scriptures. I also know that he was an evil liar and that he has been caught by thousands of historians in hundreds of lies and twisted statements. Therefore, it helps, not hurts, to say that Hitler said he was a Christian or was a Christian, because the world knows he was a liar regarding almost everything about his circumstances and lifestyle.

I'm told atheists on forums like TTA are bitter and angry. If you are not, your posts to me will be respectful, insightful and thoughtful. Prove me wrong by your adherence to decent behavior.
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