TTA Zombie Survival Skills
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24-10-2014, 12:54 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
(24-10-2014 12:34 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  I think maces are the best against heads. Even if they are wearing a helmet it can still do some damage, have it collapse on it's self.

I'm all about tomahawks. A well designed, well constructed hawk will have the top sharpened as well, allowing one to first strike, and then in the process of lifting up to dislodge it, open the target up like a can opener as the sharpened top is forced against the surface.

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24-10-2014, 12:56 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
(24-10-2014 12:54 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(24-10-2014 12:34 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  I think maces are the best against heads. Even if they are wearing a helmet it can still do some damage, have it collapse on it's self.

I'm all about tomahawks. A well designed, well constructed hawk will have the top sharpened as well, allowing one to first strike, and then in the process of lifting up to dislodge it, open the target up like a can opener as the sharpened top is forced against the surface.
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24-10-2014, 01:10 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
(24-10-2014 12:36 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  I'm not actually sure what a t-ball bat is. Google didn't help me.

It's a bat designed for young children. It's literally a lighter, shorter aluminum baseball bat.

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26-10-2014, 04:55 AM (This post was last modified: 26-10-2014 05:10 AM by WhiskeyDebates.)
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
I was born into a family that can trace it's military service back to before the English were using gunpowder. Almost my entire youth was spent getting ready for that, to honestly an unhealthy amount. I never learned to ride a bike and had to teach myself to swim at 16 but I've been fencing since I was 4 and Kendo since I was 5. Started archery and shooting shortly there after. I had a strange childhood, being raised mostly by grandfather, who was a WW2 vet and not the kind that did not like to talk about it. Camping was for weeks at a time and we didn't take food or a tent, and that was at 7 years old. Strange childhood.

My kit for a short duration (6 month) outbreak:

Primary Rifle: Kriss Vector
Primary Side Arm: Colt 1911 Government Model Combat Elite
Melee: Kilij sword

Reasons: The Kriss Vector is a joy to shoot, even for a beginner. Where it shines is on single shot as there is next to no recoil it is literally point a click rapidly moving from target to target is a breeze. The .45 has great stopping power as well and if you need to go full auto (you don't...not ever) you can and still maintain decent accuracy. The reduced muzzle climb and recoil makes it a great short term weapon for people of lower upper body strength such as youth or a woman.
The Colt .45 is my handgun. I have never liked any handgun as much as I like this one, though the Beretta 93R is a close second personally. A good thing about this build is that the Kriss Vector and the Colt use the same ammo so you don't have multiple different rounds competing for carry space. Ammo is also supper common.
The Kilij is a perfect sword for a zombie situation. I have a modified one myself (the handle is long enough to grip two handed if need be)which I adore more then any weapon I have and I have several functional Katana (which I would never use in a Zombie situation). It's fast, easy to use, cuts through things with ease due to the weighted tip even on a one handed swing, and light enough for extended travel.


My kit for a long duration (7+ month) outbreak:
Primary Rifle: Springfield Armory Super Match M1A Rifle
Primary Side Arm: Colt . 45
Melee: Kilij

Reasons: All the above reasons apply to the Colt .45 and the Kilij but the Kriss Vector gets dumped because finding replacement parts would be an absolute bitch. It's a fantastic gun but the maintenance would be problematic. The M1A however has great stopping power, accurate as hell, and whats more sturdy as a plow horse meaning you can club a zombie with your full force without having to worry about this thing breaking, a thing you can't do with a Kriss. I can count 3 other rifles I would even consider taking, and this is still my favorite.


Ok lets talk full kit from the ground up.
Start with steel toe work boots, suitable for long marches. Steel toe means even your kicks are deadly and these will last a long time. Rest of the body is durable combat grade leather: full legs full arms right down to the wrists and ankles. Even if you get bit the odds of it breaking the leather and skin is low. Have that leather cover your neck as well. Leave no skin that is not your head exposed.
If you are extremely paranoid you can wear multiple layers or a leather/chain mail/leather combo but I think it's over kill. Good leather is more then enough and silent enough as well. It has it's down sides but getting chunks ripped out of your arms is not one of them. Cheap and reliable and easy to repair if you know how (I do). Ventilated leather gloves are good but optional in my opinion, I personally don't like things on my hands but that's just me.
The head is tricky, I don't like having my vision or hearing hindered but if you wanna cover that up the best option in my opinion is a good modern motorcycle helmet. It can take a good beating, it's ventilated, lightweightish, and easy to carry. They have their downsides but I think they are the best option.

Over top of that I have a light weight tactical vest with a chest mounted Y sling, a shoulder holster for under my left arm, and a hip holster on my right hip. Combat knife is included with the tactical vest, and if I'm up for the added discomfort I keep a light weight .22 in a small of the back holster. I keep the Kilij sheathed to my left side, and a lightweight but very sturdy strapped shield on my back.
Shield might seem odd, and in fact it is a bitch to learn how to wear all that at once and not be awkward, but I would sooner leave the house with everything but the shield then to leave it behind. I honestly cant praise it enough, especially in a situation where every opponent is going to try and grip you and it can be used. That said it is bulky, it is hard to use without the right training, and travel with it can exhaust you if your not used it it. I've been training with a sword and board so long I don't notice the weight but I do notice it when it's gone. Like I said...strange childhood.

Kriss Vector goes on the chest sling, 1911 in the shoulder holster and a modern Colt .45 Single Action Army in the hip holster. Start with the Kriss: once it's empty reload if you can if not just let it go (the sling will keep it with you) and move to the 1911. Once it's empty reload it then the Kriss if you have time if you do not or you suffer a jam move to the SAA on your hip. Revolvers don't jam and you can very easy bust a head with one if you strike correctly. It's a damn solid piece of metal, but don't do that with a swing out cylinder revolver. That said a SAA takes ages to reload so just holster it when it's dry, don't even try to reload with targets active. The SSA is your first of 2 "oh shit" guns, the second being the .22 which should only be used in extreme close situations as anything other then a head shot wont even be felt by a zombie, or really even a person. Never empty the .22, you might still need one bullet.
If melee is unavoidable unclip the Kriss and let it hit the dirt( it will only get in the way, better to lose it),shrug off the shield early, get your hand in and draw the Kilij. Strike with the shield when you can but mostly you want to keep the zombie on the other side and hack with the kilij. It does not take a lot of force to split a skull with either, just don't keep the kilij too sharp, that would be a bad idea. Ideally get in a doorway if you can, you will plug it with the dead long before one gets past you.

There are obvious downsides to this build but it's what I am most comfortable, I can honestly deal without the guns but the shield, leather, and sword is a must have for me. They are all part of my body now.

Learn to reload on the move effectively, even in a full sprint.
Learn to ditch gear if you have to, you can make a good spear out of a branch and some fire but dead men don't make shit.
Learn proper breathing.
Learn proper footwork with a sword and a shield, you are as likely to kill yourself as you are the target with shitty footwork and poor balance.
Learn to leave drop boxes in all 4 directions of your camp if you can spare weapons for each. You might have to leave fast and losing all your gear and 3 guns is better then losing all your gear and 4 guns.

Boy that got long :/ I could do this for hours sadly.Weeping

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26-10-2014, 05:21 AM (This post was last modified: 26-10-2014 06:49 AM by yakherder.)
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
Another Vector supporter. I must admit the first time I fired it, my first thought was this is made for clearing zombies out of houses lol.

From the sounds of it your childhood was as weird as mine. I grew up bouncing back and fourth between Washington state and Alaska with a commercial fisherman stepfather who refused to get electric heating. Chopping firewood and gutting moose was just another household chore when I was 10.

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26-10-2014, 10:16 AM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
Vector would be awesome in an open field with them at midrange, so little muzzle climb you don't even have to readjust your sights much, really quick and accurate.

Ya I moved around a lot, but country to country for a while. Lived on the farm until my grandfather died back in '95 when I was 11 though I have no memories from before 9 so I have to go by what they tell me. After he died moved around constantly right up until I turned 18, France, Ireland, Scotland, England and then back to Canada where I stayed till I was 21. After a personal tragedy at 21 I went back to that that life style. Aussieland, New Zealand, Japan, Korea, Russia, Poland, Germany, Iceland, Spain, Germany, France, England, Scotland, and finally Ireland where I stayed for a few years. Always stayed in the worst places, think a dive bar behind a dive bar that's where I worked, and even some less "reputable" places. Eventually moved back to Canada and family cause I was not gonna survive much longer in that environment. Nothing is more stupidly dangerous then speaking English in the wrong Parisian bar. Been stabbed a bunch, mostly working as a bouncer. Shot at but never hit, which is exciting after the fact haha

Saw a lot of the world though, made me feel older then I am mostly lol

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26-10-2014, 10:49 AM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
Well...I wrestled in high school, but grappling with with zombies is ill advised since they don't obey the no biting rule.

So I guess my contribution to human survival after the zombie apocolypse would be helping to repopulate the world with normal people. I'm more of a lover than a fighter these days anyway. Rolleyes

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01-11-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
I'm a Nurse. I can treat some life threatening injuries.
I don't flinch at the sight of the grossest things on the planet.
I own guns and shoot. I used to shoot USPSA so head shots are easier for me.
I have stored food. I believe in being prepared.
I have a network of associates who do the same. Safety in numbers.
I'm a porn star in my own mind. So any ladies (especially hot ones) who need a morale boost can get one.
I don't drink or smoke so I don't have vices (other than sex) that could be a detriment to the group.

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01-11-2014, 02:48 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
(26-10-2014 04:55 AM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  SNIP

Thumbs up for the M1A. You can reach out and touch something with that. I've never fired the Kriss so I have no experience there. I've often wondered why folks in zombie movies or shows never think of basic armor. I've seen it a few times but basic leather armor could save your life. I honestly didn't expect to see so many atheist gun owners.

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01-11-2014, 03:18 PM
RE: TTA Zombie Survival Skills
(24-10-2014 10:19 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  For Hire:
Coonass Redneck (born and raised in the Louisiana woods)

Skills:
Advanced survival skills including - making fire, edible flora identification, hunting, fishing, and gathering skills (including water), spacial awareness, melee weaponry skills, firearm skills

Arsenal:
Huge supply of melee weaponry, Beretta 9mm sidearm, .22 bolt action rifle (magazine capabilities), 410 single-shot shotgun, Remington Pump 12 gauge shotgun

Interesting development in the apocalypse, kingschosen gets left behind. Tongue Maybe my husband would be, too. Consider Must be related to Mardi Gras.

He's also from Louisiana but never developed the woodsman skills - his dad is a hippy, make love not war, never shot a gun, probably doesn't know what a machete is, yoga instructing reconciliation preacher from NOLA. First time my husband shot a gun was skeet shooting with me on my family farm when he was 19.

His skills are better described as "conflict resolution" between his happy go lucky nature, hostage negotiation training, responding to domestic disputes, etc with his years of service in law enforcement. I'm sure his AR-15 would qualify as conflict resolution, as well.

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