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30-03-2015, 09:26 AM
Taken out of context
I came across a youtube video entitled "10 Shocking Bible Verses You Won't Believe" which has a bunch of panties-in-a-twist-Christians posting that the verses are taken out of context. It doesn't matter that this storybook god has killed millions, according to these mindless Christians the verses are taken out of context which shows why god does the killings and justifies mass murder. This just blows.

Funny how Christians take the Theory of EVolution and omit, twist and completely lie about it's facts but don't want their sacred book messed with.

The guy who did the video is being super nice to these assholes. I don't know how he does it. I gave the video a thumbs up in support of his efforts.




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30-03-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: Taken out of context
"Out of context!" has become such a shrill, thoughtless defense, brayed at the first possible opportunity, that it's easy to identify as the security blanket that it is, rather than a legitimate contention. You see, very rarely does the theist provide the context, most likely because they don't know what it is, making the entire thing a pointless exercise in safeguarding something the theist takes for granted.

The optimal challenge is to simply ask what kind of context makes all the genocide and slavery and whatnot okay. Because that's certainly not present in the bible.
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30-03-2015, 10:18 AM
RE: Taken out of context
3:45 if god doesn't exist then who is responsible for life and death? Parents! Oh, it's not their responsibility? Then why do you care about death at all?
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30-03-2015, 10:31 AM
RE: Taken out of context
What does "responsible for life and death" even mean?

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30-03-2015, 10:37 AM
RE: Taken out of context
(30-03-2015 10:18 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  3:45 if god doesn't exist then who is responsible for life and death? Parents! Oh, it's not their responsibility? Then why do you care about death at all?

Fucking hell, are you still on this kick?

It's really simple: based on everything we know, death is an inevitable part of life, something we can't avoid, but can only accept as natural, and move on. Our lives can be better than the alternative, even if they eventually end.

But that's not what the bible teaches: the bible teaches that there's a being for whom death is optional, but yet he chooses to inflict it on everyone as a conscious choice. That is immoral, and something worth caring about. That entirely changes the outlook on death we should have, and you're equivocating if you pretend that the two positions are the same position.
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30-03-2015, 10:46 AM
RE: Taken out of context
(30-03-2015 10:37 AM)Esquilax Wrote:  But that's not what the bible teaches: the bible teaches that there's a being for whom death is optional, but yet he chooses to inflict it on everyone as a conscious choice. That is immoral, and something worth caring about. That entirely changes the outlook on death we should have, and you're equivocating if you pretend that the two positions are the same position.
God exists. God made people mortal. God is evil.
God doesn't exist. Parents made their children mortal. Parents are good?
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30-03-2015, 10:51 AM
RE: Taken out of context
(30-03-2015 10:46 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  God exists. God made people mortal. God is evil.
God doesn't exist. Parents made their children mortal. Parents are good?

Yep, that's the equivocation. Rolleyes

Here, since you're either too blinkered or too dishonest to represent it right:

God exists. God made people mortal. God didn't have to make people die, or suffer, or sicken, but he did as a conscious choice that offers no corresponding benefit to anyone. God is evil.

God doesn't exist. Parents made their children. Those children are unavoidably mortal due to a fact about reality, that their parents have no say or control over. Despite this, parents make their children's lives happy and fulfilling, rendering those lives better than non existence. Parents are good.
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30-03-2015, 11:29 AM
RE: Taken out of context
Ahem.

"It's a metaphor. Duh"

Now that that's out of the way, what *other* twisted excuses will we hear?

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30-03-2015, 11:58 AM
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See this is the part that makes me most of the time avoid trying to wade through verses. I like to simply attack the magic and fantastic claims. "You are not interpreting it right" is a dodge every religion uses. The other part is that our well intended friends on the left don't understand that the right, the ones who would justify bad laws and oppression and violence, are using the exact same books they do. It is literally our species failure to understand that our species morality is in us, not those books.

But even if we do this and get into "interpretation" it would negate the idea of an all powerful god. He poofs the universe into existence, but needs mere humans and thousands of years to complete these books and on top of that ends up with many different versions no one can agree on.

I would not hire this being to run a bicycle factory. The bikes would end up with squid for spokes and the workers would murder each other arguing over the assembly manuals.

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30-03-2015, 12:14 PM
RE: Taken out of context
(30-03-2015 09:26 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  I came across a youtube video entitled "10 Shocking Bible Verses You Won't Believe" which has a bunch of panties-in-a-twist-Christians posting that the verses are taken out of context. It doesn't matter that this storybook god has killed millions, according to these mindless Christians the verses are taken out of context which shows why god does the killings and justifies mass murder. This just blows.

Funny how Christians take the Theory of EVolution and omit, twist and completely lie about it's facts but don't want their sacred book messed with.

The guy who did the video is being super nice to these assholes. I don't know how he does it. I gave the video a thumbs up in support of his efforts.



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