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01-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Sad Taking a step back.....
I've wrote before on here about the depression I have suffered with in the past. It's not something I think I will ever get rid of and I have gotten myself to a point where I have it under control. I don't take medication/anti-depressants, I have done in the past and whilst it helped immensely in my darkest of days and I would recommend anybody who is suffering to definitely use them, they are not for me long term.

In October 2014 I got a diploma in Hypnotherapy and Mindcoaching. I spent almost a year offering my services for free to anybody who wanted it, to gain experience in the techniques and various language patterns. I worked hard to get some savings together and I quit my job and got myself an office and started up doing it full time as a business.

It's not gone as well as I had hoped, despite my best efforts to get it off the ground. I have had clients and I am very good at helping people, but I am not getting enough to maintain my home and my office. So I am going to have to give my office up.

Living off a ridiculously tight budget to try and keep it going I have not been eating properly, which has triggered my depression and I have had some crazily low days, especially recently. Had a few days where old thoughts and feelings resurfaced where I thought about killing myself.... don't worry I'm not going anywhere and I wont be doing it, I'm no psychology expert but I just see them as residual thought patterns that occur under stress. Whereas I used to see death as a comfort and something I had control over, now it just spurs me as nothing can be as bad as death itself.

So now I gotta find myself a job to get some money coming in again. It's not something I am looking forward too as I agree with people who have said if you find something you love doing, it isn't work. I love doing hypnosis and helping people, the rewards are not just monetary. I've helped people stop smoking, free themselves completely of phobias, lose weight, gain confidence and transformed people lives for the better in lots of other ways. The feeling and knowing I have helped people is very rewarding.

I keep telling myself and most of the time I believe the NLP saying "There is no such thing as failure, only feedback". The market is becoming saturated with hypnotherapists, I never saved enough up to go it alone for a sustained amount of time that I think is needed, my marketing strategy needs more work alongside my SEO for my website and the economy is slowly dying. I do however sometimes feel like a bit of a fraud. That I have my own issues and yet there I am, helping other people with their own. I sometimes feel like a bit of a hypocrite, even though I have evidence to the contrary to tell me otherwise.

So yeah....... that's about it. Just had to get it out really as I'm too proud to tell the people around me in my life that I need help, reaching out to you guys through this semi anonymous medium is the best I can do right now.

The other saying "Its better to have tried and failed, than to never have tried" is very true and I am proud of the things I have achieved. Its just a heavy blow like someone taking a sledgehammer to my bollocks, Im just pissed off for feeling depressed again.

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01-01-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: Taking a step back.....
Get in the phone books, offer house calls.

After the phone books have been published, wait a week and then start searching your keywords online. You will pop up here and there. Get happy customers to write reviews for your listings.

You may still need a job to tie you over, but there is no reason to assume that you have failed as yet.

I've been there a number of times over the decades. Sometimes you need to cut overhead to next to nothing while you build up a clientele.

Also make a website. Make your keywords about your work as well as about your town so the search engines send you the proper traffic. Ask me if you need help getting listed in the search engines.

You don't give up just like that. You rewrite the plan.

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01-01-2016, 05:02 PM
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Wishing you all the very best and hoping for you and yours.

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01-01-2016, 05:10 PM
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Hug I am sorry you are struggling. I am not sure if you are seeing a therapist, but I think that would be a good idea. No one is without issues, so don't feel like a hypocrite or fraud for helping others when you are dealing with your own personal things.

I know you said the economy is bad and the market has become saturated with hypnotherapists where you are--are you able to relocate to another area that may be more lucrative for your profession, somewhere where there is a higher demand?

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01-01-2016, 05:15 PM
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(01-01-2016 04:47 PM)bemore Wrote:  The other saying "Its better to have tried and failed, than to never have tried" is very true and I am proud of the things I have achieved. Its just a heavy blow like someone taking a sledgehammer to my bollocks, Im just pissed off for feeling depressed again.

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01-01-2016, 05:29 PM
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Do you have a website? Even a simple one will help generate contacts.

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01-01-2016, 06:32 PM
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(01-01-2016 05:00 PM)Dom Wrote:  Get in the phone books, offer house calls.

After the phone books have been published, wait a week and then start searching your keywords online. You will pop up here and there. Get happy customers to write reviews for your listings.

You may still need a job to tie you over, but there is no reason to assume that you have failed as yet.

I've been there a number of times over the decades. Sometimes you need to cut overhead to next to nothing while you build up a clientele.

Also make a website. Make your keywords about your work as well as about your town so the search engines send you the proper traffic. Ask me if you need help getting listed in the search engines.

You don't give up just like that. You rewrite the plan.

I have been getting advice from other hypnotherapist's on a group I belong to on facebook and none of them say they get any work from Phone books, which is why I have not bothered going down that route (Maybe I could be missing something there). I have been learning about keywords and SEO's but I am a useless at websites. I paid a local company to design and make my website and I don't have control over it. I did enquire about a month ago with them about improving my SEO but I was told I needed to speak to the guy who own's the company and he was on holiday for a few weeks. I will enquire on Monday but I have a feeling he may try and wrap it up in some sort of package and charge me for it.

I suppose im going to have to look into making my own website with something like wix.com or something for me to have 100% control over it. I really do appreciate your help though Dom and I will be asking you for some advice I think in the short term.


(01-01-2016 05:02 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Hug

Wishing you all the very best and hoping for you and yours.

Hug

Thank you Hug

(01-01-2016 05:10 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Hug I am sorry you are struggling. I am not sure if you are seeing a therapist, but I think that would be a good idea. No one is without issues, so don't feel like a hypocrite or fraud for helping others when you are dealing with your own personal things.

I know you said the economy is bad and the market has become saturated with hypnotherapists where you are--are you able to relocate to another area that may be more lucrative for your profession, somewhere where there is a higher demand?

I know my feeling of being a fraud is irrational. Its just part of the negative self talk I sometimes go through. I have been to see counsellors in the past and I did a few sessions of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy that helped me a lot. I could consider going back to my Doc's but to be honest I don't think I'm that bad (not compared to how I used to get). I don't think I will ever get rid of my depression, its just about handling it which I seem to be able to do now. I sometimes still get negative thoughts and feelings but I'm a lot better at lifting myself up. I think this recent bout is due to stress of the unknown, plus my not eating properly. I do seem to get worse through winter, I dunno, possibly some Seasonal Affective Disorder? I think I should try some vitamin D supplements.

I don't have the balls to move anywhere new. I have always lived where I have and its a big place and all my friends and family are here. I think the market everywhere is becoming saturated.

(01-01-2016 05:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Girly's got your back, brother. Tell me how I can help, BrotherMan.

Just listening/reading and giving me straight advice is already helping a lot.

(01-01-2016 05:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  Do you have a website? Even a simple one will help generate contacts.

Yeah this is my website...

http://www.puremindhypnosis.co.uk/

I have gotten new clients through referrals and through my facebook page. My website turns up on page 5 of google.

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01-01-2016, 06:56 PM
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(01-01-2016 06:32 PM)bemore Wrote:  
(01-01-2016 05:00 PM)Dom Wrote:  Get in the phone books, offer house calls.

After the phone books have been published, wait a week and then start searching your keywords online. You will pop up here and there. Get happy customers to write reviews for your listings.

You may still need a job to tie you over, but there is no reason to assume that you have failed as yet.

I've been there a number of times over the decades. Sometimes you need to cut overhead to next to nothing while you build up a clientele.

Also make a website. Make your keywords about your work as well as about your town so the search engines send you the proper traffic. Ask me if you need help getting listed in the search engines.

You don't give up just like that. You rewrite the plan.

I have been getting advice from other hypnotherapist's on a group I belong to on facebook and none of them say they get any work from Phone books, which is why I have not bothered going down that route (Maybe I could be missing something there). I have been learning about keywords and SEO's but I am a useless at websites. I paid a local company to design and make my website and I don't have control over it. I did enquire about a month ago with them about improving my SEO but I was told I needed to speak to the guy who own's the company and he was on holiday for a few weeks. I will enquire on Monday but I have a feeling he may try and wrap it up in some sort of package and charge me for it.

I suppose im going to have to look into making my own website with something like wix.com or something for me to have 100% control over it. I really do appreciate your help though Dom and I will be asking you for some advice I think in the short term.


(01-01-2016 05:02 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Hug

Wishing you all the very best and hoping for you and yours.

Hug

Thank you Hug

(01-01-2016 05:10 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Hug I am sorry you are struggling. I am not sure if you are seeing a therapist, but I think that would be a good idea. No one is without issues, so don't feel like a hypocrite or fraud for helping others when you are dealing with your own personal things.

I know you said the economy is bad and the market has become saturated with hypnotherapists where you are--are you able to relocate to another area that may be more lucrative for your profession, somewhere where there is a higher demand?

I know my feeling of being a fraud is irrational. Its just part of the negative self talk I sometimes go through. I have been to see counsellors in the past and I did a few sessions of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy that helped me a lot. I could consider going back to my Doc's but to be honest I don't think I'm that bad (not compared to how I used to get). I don't think I will ever get rid of my depression, its just about handling it which I seem to be able to do now. I sometimes still get negative thoughts and feelings but I'm a lot better at lifting myself up. I think this recent bout is due to stress of the unknown, plus my not eating properly. I do seem to get worse through winter, I dunno, possibly some Seasonal Affective Disorder? I think I should try some vitamin D supplements.

I don't have the balls to move anywhere new. I have always lived where I have and its a big place and all my friends and family are here. I think the market everywhere is becoming saturated.

(01-01-2016 05:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Girly's got your back, brother. Tell me how I can help, BrotherMan.

Just listening/reading and giving me straight advice is already helping a lot.

(01-01-2016 05:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  Do you have a website? Even a simple one will help generate contacts.

Yeah this is my website...

http://www.puremindhypnosis.co.uk/

I have gotten new clients through referrals and through my facebook page. My website turns up on page 5 of google.

In that case, I agree with Dom. Don't give up on your passion or your dreams just because you've hit a rough patch. Rework your strategic marketing plan and keep pushing forward. What makes you stand out from the other hypnotherapists, there has to be something. Use that to your advantage and highlight it. Social media is extremely powerful, ask clients to leave various reviews on yelp and things like that. Ask your local newspaper if they would be willing to run a highlight on a local business. Go to gyms, yoga studios, health food stores, things like that and ask to leave pamphlets and/or your business cards. These are just a few ideas and you may already be doing them. My advice would also be to get creative and think outside the box.

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You have NO SEO! That is your front page up there. Start looking from the top - see where it says keywords? Where are they? Sadcryface

Do yourself a favor. Make your own site. There are apps that let a grade schooler design professional looking sites. You can do it. And it will be better. And it will draw visitors because you will be prompted to enter proper SEO keywords. They are the freaking most important thing and you don't even have any.

The phone books get listed online after a while - or do they in the UK? Then scraper sites come along and pull the business pages off and create business specific sites giving links to people listed in the phone book. There reviews can be left. If reviews are left, the search engines will pick up on it. The more reviews, the more exposure you get.

Put that gifted mind of your towards creating your own, low overhead business, get a job to help fill the void (any job) and nurture this baby. It's a good field, you don't have much online competition because you can target locally.

I'm getting off line now, but I will be happy to point you if you have questions tomorrow. Good thing your competition seems to be clueless about how to promote themselves. Just remember, we'll make some secret SEO sauce, and you need to keep it that - a secret sauce. No telling your competitors. Or it won't work, you want to be on top there. Now get off your duff and do that thing.

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(01-01-2016 06:32 PM)bemore Wrote:  
(01-01-2016 05:00 PM)Dom Wrote:  Get in the phone books, offer house calls.

After the phone books have been published, wait a week and then start searching your keywords online. You will pop up here and there. Get happy customers to write reviews for your listings.

You may still need a job to tie you over, but there is no reason to assume that you have failed as yet.

I've been there a number of times over the decades. Sometimes you need to cut overhead to next to nothing while you build up a clientele.

Also make a website. Make your keywords about your work as well as about your town so the search engines send you the proper traffic. Ask me if you need help getting listed in the search engines.

You don't give up just like that. You rewrite the plan.

I have been getting advice from other hypnotherapist's on a group I belong to on facebook and none of them say they get any work from Phone books, which is why I have not bothered going down that route (Maybe I could be missing something there). I have been learning about keywords and SEO's but I am a useless at websites. I paid a local company to design and make my website and I don't have control over it. I did enquire about a month ago with them about improving my SEO but I was told I needed to speak to the guy who own's the company and he was on holiday for a few weeks. I will enquire on Monday but I have a feeling he may try and wrap it up in some sort of package and charge me for it.

I suppose im going to have to look into making my own website with something like wix.com or something for me to have 100% control over it. I really do appreciate your help though Dom and I will be asking you for some advice I think in the short term.


(01-01-2016 05:02 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Hug

Wishing you all the very best and hoping for you and yours.

Hug

Thank you Hug

(01-01-2016 05:10 PM)jennybee Wrote:  Hug I am sorry you are struggling. I am not sure if you are seeing a therapist, but I think that would be a good idea. No one is without issues, so don't feel like a hypocrite or fraud for helping others when you are dealing with your own personal things.

I know you said the economy is bad and the market has become saturated with hypnotherapists where you are--are you able to relocate to another area that may be more lucrative for your profession, somewhere where there is a higher demand?

I know my feeling of being a fraud is irrational. Its just part of the negative self talk I sometimes go through. I have been to see counsellors in the past and I did a few sessions of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy that helped me a lot. I could consider going back to my Doc's but to be honest I don't think I'm that bad (not compared to how I used to get). I don't think I will ever get rid of my depression, its just about handling it which I seem to be able to do now. I sometimes still get negative thoughts and feelings but I'm a lot better at lifting myself up. I think this recent bout is due to stress of the unknown, plus my not eating properly. I do seem to get worse through winter, I dunno, possibly some Seasonal Affective Disorder? I think I should try some vitamin D supplements.

I don't have the balls to move anywhere new. I have always lived where I have and its a big place and all my friends and family are here. I think the market everywhere is becoming saturated.

(01-01-2016 05:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Girly's got your back, brother. Tell me how I can help, BrotherMan.

Just listening/reading and giving me straight advice is already helping a lot.

(01-01-2016 05:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  Do you have a website? Even a simple one will help generate contacts.

Yeah this is my website...

http://www.puremindhypnosis.co.uk/

I have gotten new clients through referrals and through my facebook page. My website turns up on page 5 of google.

It's an attractive and informative website, but I strongly suggest you change the text to be in the first person, especially the section entitled "About Me". Yes

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