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23-09-2014, 06:56 PM
RE: Target Practice
(23-09-2014 04:11 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  MAke him a deal.
Book for a book.

That would give you some interesting talks

You see, this is exactly what I think I will ever do if a Christian ever tries to offer me a book.


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23-09-2014, 07:06 PM
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(23-09-2014 04:14 PM)CiderThinker Wrote:  Lend him some Hitchens, Dawkins, Barker, Harris or Ehrman in return.

Only if she's out to teach him something! Value for value she could give him a Dr. Seuss book Tongue One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish should keep him busy!

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23-09-2014, 07:10 PM
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Hug

I know the feeling....


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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23-09-2014, 07:19 PM
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Would your friend even be willing to read something like Dawkins? 'Cause that's blasphemous devil worshippin' stuff right thur.

Even my liberal Christian husband won't read Dawkins. Might chip away what shreds of faith he still has. He's not sure if he believes in hell, doesn't think heaven will have only Christians, and doesn't think the bible should be taken literally, but he calls himself a Christian and still believes in god.

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23-09-2014, 07:38 PM
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(23-09-2014 04:11 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  MAke him a deal.
Book for a book.

That would give you some interesting talks

This.

Then add to this.

Book for book.

Construct written rebuttals of books.

Then share.
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23-09-2014, 09:54 PM
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(23-09-2014 04:11 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  MAke him a deal.
Book for a book.

That would give you some interesting talks

I've offered that suggestion but I doubt he'd ever actually touch a Dawkins book if place in front of him. The mere act of him suggesting these books to me is okay in his eyes, but if I even so much as placed Dawkins or Hitchens in front of him, he'd most likely get angry and go on about me trying to deconvert him... when he suggesting Christian books to me is pretty hypocritical.

(23-09-2014 05:01 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  If your friend falls for such absurd garbage you need a new friend.

I'm used to my friends liking absurd garbage. It isn't the first time this friend, or any other friend, has recommended such a bogus book to me.

(23-09-2014 05:06 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  So there are other gods battling for us?

Gwyneth Paltrow. Shy
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23-09-2014, 11:23 PM
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(23-09-2014 09:54 PM)Ferdinand Wrote:  Gwyneth Paltrow. Shy

Damn straight. But our prophet has left us Sad

These Christee types... Always placing their faith in magic books. Ask him if this book is more effective than the Bible for converting people to Christianity does that mean the Bible is irrelevant?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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23-09-2014, 11:58 PM
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(23-09-2014 04:11 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  MAke him a deal.
Book for a book.

That would give you some interesting talks

I suggest you ask him to read the bible with you, or at least simultaneously, with discussions.

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness.

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24-09-2014, 12:31 AM
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(23-09-2014 04:02 PM)Ferdinand Wrote:  One of my closest friends is a Christian. Every so often he'll recommend a religious book to me. This recent weekend he went to a youth camp and came home with a book called "Gods at War" by Kyle Idleman.

The back of the book reads:

"In gods at war, Kyle Idleman, bestselling author of not a fan, helps every believer recognize there are false gods at war within each of us, and they battle for the place of glory and control in our lives. What keeps us from truly following Jesus is that our hearts are pursuing something or someone else. While these pursuits may not be the “graven images” of old, they are in fact modern day idols. Behind the sin you’re struggling with, the discouragement you’re dealing with, the lack of purpose you’re living with is a false god that is winning the war for your heart."

In the back of the book is an excerpt from "Not a Fan" by Idleman. I didn't read the chapter, but the summary of the books reads:

"Are you a follower of Jesus? Don’t answer too quickly. In fact, you may want to read this book before you answer at all. Consider it a “Define the Relationship” conversation to determine exactly where you stand. You may indeed be a passionate, fully devoted follower of Jesus. Or, you may be just a fan who admires Jesus but isn’t ready to let him cramp your style. Then again, maybe you’re not into Jesus, period. In any case, don’t take the question—Are you a follower of Jesus?—lightly. Some people don’t know what they’ve said yes to and other people don’t realize what they’ve said no to, says Pastor Kyle Idleman. But Jesus is ready to clearly define the relationship he wants with his followers. Not a Fan calls you to consider the demands and rewards of being a true disciple. With frankness sprinkled with humor, Idleman invites you to live the way Jesus lived, love the way he loved, pray the way he prayed, and never give up living for the One who gave his all for you."

My friend has known for the longest of my nonreligious beliefs, and even told me he didn't mind. It never distanced our friendship at all, surprisingly. It gave us something to talk about- or, well, mostly argue about. After the arguments became a too unbearable, we stopped talking about religion. Yet he often recommends me these bogus books, and I feel a bit insulted. He insisted that after he reads both books, I should read them and we should talk about them.

All the while, I am like Dodgy

But why read the books, when you can watch someone else read and critique them for you?





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An Atheist Reads I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist

An Atheist Reads Evidence That Demands a Verdict

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An Atheist Reads Simply Christian

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24-09-2014, 12:41 AM
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(23-09-2014 11:58 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  
(23-09-2014 04:11 PM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  MAke him a deal.
Book for a book.

That would give you some interesting talks

I suggest you ask him to read the bible with you, or at least simultaneously, with discussions.

That would be fun! Also make him take notes about what happened and in what order surrounding the death and resurrection of Jesus. Once you're done with all four Gospels, then have him double-check his notes. Watch his head explode as he tries desperately to reconcile Matthew's zombie parade with the other Gospels... Laugh out load

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