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05-12-2014, 11:11 AM
RE: Technology by Filox
OK, after a few days of research, here are the results...

Any tablet can be used as a secondary monitor, either via wifi or usb connection (iDisplay apk). This, however, is not good enough for games, because it is laggy and it just stretches my desktop on another monitor. Main problem I found is that the game itself needs to support multi-monitor use, and STO is not such a game, it has rather old game engine and multi-monitor support is just too demanding for an engine like this one.

If you have 2 or more monitors, you can use them but as one big monitor, and that is not what I want. I would need a game on one monitor, all the HUD on another and that can be done only in games that support multiple monitors...

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27-03-2015, 12:07 PM
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To anyone who cares to answer: I've currently got an Internet plan that gives me 1.5mbps (when testing my speed it's acutally closer to .8 or .9), im thinking of upgrading. The next jump is 7mbps, then 20mbps.

Will I notice a huge difference going to the 7 or 20? For general web browsing, I don't experience much delay. Sometimes a page with a ton of ads or gifs will take a little while to load. I can't download do more than one thing at once though. I can't download a podcast while streaming Netflix for instance.

Just wondering if I can go for the mini upgrade, or if I should go a little bigger? I really don't need much.
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28-03-2015, 06:34 AM
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I've just changed from a connection of around 4Mbps to about 13Mbps by moving house. I watch a lot of youtube videos and there I certainly notice the difference. Be careful though - if you are no ADSL or something similar you may be stuck with what you have. The laws of physics more or less dictate a given maximum bandwidth for a given length of cable. I think you'll notice a difference but make sure there will be a difference before you commit more cash Wink

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30-03-2015, 03:20 PM
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And here i thought I have a slow connection... Go for the 7 Mbs, it should be a significant upgrade from your current speed, you will need more only of you want to download the movie a few minutes faster.

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30-03-2015, 03:53 PM
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I read someplace that a lot of the companies sell you the higher speed, give it to you at first, and then slowly drop your speed down...

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30-03-2015, 03:58 PM
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I care to answer Tongue you can try the 7 for now and upload if necessary. After all it's only 2 people using it at once at worst, right?

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07-05-2015, 11:43 AM
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http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument...=c04136962

This is my new baby. It's a HP Workstation xw8600, a double quad-core Xeon machine, with quad-channel DDR2, 800W PS and 6GB of ECC DDR2 memory (goes up to 32GB). It cost me about 160 Euros and I will have to upgrade both my processors and get some new graphic card, or two, so I'll be spending a bit more money. It's still extremely cheap for the raw power and stability it can provide. I fact, the whole machine and all the upgrades, along with a new (used) gtx570 graphic card is still cheaper than only one i7 CPU (2011 socket), without the cooler.

I bought this so I can play GTA V, of course.

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07-05-2015, 05:12 PM
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What is this dee dee are too you speak of?

The Datasheet's first revision dates back more than 7 years. It's a surprising choice if you are serious about it being used for gaming, but I guess I can see how it could work. It's clearly value for money if it can run what you want, but the "if" is something that can destroy the value proposition pretty quickly Wink

So let me see if I can follow the broad strokes of your reasoning:
- 2xDDR2 = 4 channels while 1xDDR3 = 2 channels. Although each pair of DDR2 channels is only accessible via one of the CPUs... so does it require two fairly independent threads to be running across the CPUs to work efficiently or is the bus between the CPUs fast enough for this to matter? Do you run into latency issues between the cores? Are modern(ish) games simply threaded enough to make this work?
- 2x PCIe x16 should be enough for anyone... but are described as gen2. So is that the 5GT/s version for a total bandwidth of 8GB/s as compared to 15.75GB/s or 31.51GB/s for v3.0 and v4.0, respectively. Is that likely to constitute a bottleneck?
- 800W power supply should be enough for anyone
- 6GB RAM is probably enough for gaming. ECC is nice to have. But what is its speed? Is it a bottleneck?
- You haven't stated what the CPUs will be so they of course could be a bottleneck also, especially as on-die cache sizes have increased so dramatically over the years.

It sounds like an excellent desktop - if you're playing games or doing video work I'd be interested in hearing how the performance pans out.

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09-05-2015, 10:58 AM
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First of all, it is not a xw8600, it is a xw8400. This is bad because it uses a generation older CPUs, 5300 series, not the 5400 series.

What I'm gonna do is buy two stronges CPUs I can find and that would be Xeon 5365 at 3.0 mhz, 1333 FSB and 8mb cache. Memory is DDR2 fully buffered dimm with ECC at 667 mhz, quad channel and I will change 2 slots so that they are all paired and that will bring it up to 8GBs. Then I will get an usb3.0 controller and a SATA3 controller for a brand new SSD. SSD is going to be my system disk, while I will get some SAS (15k rpm, 72GB) for game installations. At this moment I have ATI4870 graphic card which I will change for the better, GTX570, or better, when I have the money.

This whole deal, the station and all these upgrades will cost me less than only one i7 cpu, without the PSU, hard drives, motherboard, memory, graphics and a case...

Basically, what I have here is a Core2Quad, only double and with some server instructions. Since I am still using AMD X2 5600+, this is going to be a HUGE upgrade. Yes, there will still be some bottlenecks, but nothing I will mind too much. Tons of processing power, multi threading with 8 physical cores, very stable memory, perfect steel case with excellent cooling system... When I get my hard disk setups in order, this is going to be a great machine and for not a lot of money.

What I have now is a toy for me to upgrade in the next few months/years until it reaches it's maximum. Then I will buy something newer, the next generation of Xeon machines. I am never, ever going back to a single processor PC after this. Smile

This machine can run GTA V 100%. I can almost run it on my old shit, just need a quad core CPU instead of dual core one. Now I have 2...

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09-05-2015, 11:57 AM
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(07-05-2015 11:43 AM)Filox Wrote:  [Image: 8600_barebones_compeve.jpg]

http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument...=c04136962

This is my new baby. It's a HP Workstation xw8600, a double quad-core Xeon machine, with quad-channel DDR2, 800W PS and 6GB of ECC DDR2 memory (goes up to 32GB). It cost me about 160 Euros and I will have to upgrade both my processors and get some new graphic card, or two, so I'll be spending a bit more money. It's still extremely cheap for the raw power and stability it can provide. I fact, the whole machine and all the upgrades, along with a new (used) gtx570 graphic card is still cheaper than only one i7 CPU (2011 socket), without the cooler.

I bought this so I can play GTA V, of course.

Cool

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