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06-11-2017, 08:52 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
Not to interrupt the gun chat, but...has all the atheist stuff turned out to be a hoax? Just checked Foxnews, if this loser jackhole posted a bunch of anti-Christian pro-atheism rants they would be the ones to play it up as primary cause (him being an unhappy angry asshole wife-and-child-beater would be distant second). I hope it turns out there is no connection (actually I hope it turns out he was the children's bible study director, but that's probably asking too much).

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06-11-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 05:29 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(06-11-2017 05:14 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  To put it more clearly: "Guns don't have anything to do with mass shootings, but guns do have to do with self defense." Consider

You don't defend yourself with a gun, you offer violence in return for violence.

Is this supposed to be a serious statement?

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06-11-2017, 09:40 PM
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(05-11-2017 03:02 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 02:56 PM)abaris Wrote:  Maybe it's because every nutjob has access to guns. Nah, can't be.

Guns have nothing to do with it. Or did you miss the killings last week in New York with a truck?

Or last year in France, when a guy with a truck killed 86 people, more than the largest mass shooting ever in America?

The weapon chosen doesn't matter. Could be fertilizer bombs. Trucks. Knives. Guns.

Humans are sick fucks.

Of course guns have absolutely nothing to do with MASS SHOOTINGS.

You must one of those deep southern Republican hics that Stewie Griffin makes fun of?




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06-11-2017, 09:58 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2017 10:02 PM by WhiskeyDebates.)
RE: Texas Church Shooting
So Stephen Willeford just gave an interview on the Texas shooting. He heard shooting going on from his house, his house is about a block away from the church, he retrieved his AR-15 from his safe along with a fist full of bullets (he had no magazines preloaded in his safe) and started loading it on the go.

Exiting his house he travelled on foot (barefoot) to the church and arrived just as the shooter was exiting the building. The shooter was wearing a SWAT-style tactical helmet as well as a front and rear facing bullet-proof vest. They exchanged gunfire with Mr. Willeford striking the shooter in the side were the vest doesn't cover causing the shooter to drop his weapon and climbed inside his vehicle and speed off.

Mr. Willeford flagged down a motorist, explained the situation, and both men gave pursuit of the shooter's vehicle. While pursuing they got in contact with Police and helped direct them to where the shooter was. Eventually, the shooter lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a ditch at which point Mr. Willeford's driver parked his vehicle and Mr. Willeford got out and kept his rifle pointed at the crashed vehicle until police arrived about 7ish minutes later. When a single squad car showed up, he put his firearm on the hood and stepped away at which point the officer told him to get back to his weapon. He kept his weapon trained on the location of the shooter until about six other officers showed up and were able to escort Mr. Willeford and his driver to safety.

Mr. Willeford was told by police later that the shooter had multiple weapons in the vehicle as well as a lot of extra ammunition, so it's likely, though not confirmed, that the man intended to continue his murders. Mr. Willeford is a former NRA weapons instructor. He also made a point of saying that had he gone up against an active shooter with a bullet-proof vest with his pistol and not his rifle it probably would have been pointless.

As to be expected lots of Christian god talk but if you want to watch the interview it's here.

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06-11-2017, 10:15 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 09:58 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  So Stephen Willeford just gave an interview on the Texas shooting. He heard shooting going on from his house, his house is about a block away from the church, he retrieved his AR-15 from his safe along with a fist full of bullets (he had no magazines preloaded in his safe) and started loading it on the go.

Exiting his house he travelled on foot (barefoot) to the church and arrived just as the shooter was exiting the building. The shooter was wearing a SWAT-style tactical helmet as well as a front and rear facing bullet-proof vest. They exchanged gunfire with Mr. Willeford striking the shooter in the side were the vest doesn't cover causing the shooter to drop his weapon and climbed inside his vehicle and speed off.

Mr. Willeford flagged down a motorist, explained the situation, and both men gave pursuit of the shooter's vehicle. While pursuing they got in contact with Police and helped direct them to where the shooter was. Eventually, the shooter lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a ditch at which point Mr. Willeford's driver parked his vehicle and Mr. Willeford got out and kept his rifle pointed at the crashed vehicle until police arrived about 7ish minutes later. When a single squad car showed up, he put his firearm on the hood and stepped away at which point the officer told him to get back to his weapon. He kept his weapon trained on the location of the shooter until about six other officers showed up and were able to escort Mr. Willeford and his driver to safety.

Mr. Willeford was told by police later that the shooter had multiple weapons in the vehicle as well as a lot of extra ammunition, so it's likely, though not confirmed, that the man intended to continue his murders. Mr. Willeford is a former NRA weapons instructor. He also made a point of saying that had he gone up against an active shooter with a bullet-proof vest with his pistol and not his rifle it probably would have been pointless.

As to be expected lots of Christian god talk but if you want to watch the interview it's here.

Regardless of one's stance on guns, good on him for engaging the Censored -er

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06-11-2017, 10:29 PM
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(06-11-2017 10:15 PM)yakherder Wrote:  Regardless of one's stance on guns, good on him for engaging the Censored -er

I've been shot at a couple times, it's not a fun experience so got a lot of respect for the man.

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06-11-2017, 11:06 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 08:52 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  Not to interrupt the gun chat, but...has all the atheist stuff turned out to be a hoax? Just checked Foxnews, if this loser jackhole posted a bunch of anti-Christian pro-atheism rants they would be the ones to play it up as primary cause (him being an unhappy angry asshole wife-and-child-beater would be distant second). I hope it turns out there is no connection (actually I hope it turns out he was the children's bible study director, but that's probably asking too much).

I was just relieved to find out that it was not Brian37 blowing a gasket and shooting up a church. Angel

But seriously, the fact that there are unstable people like this who then act on their craziness should remind us all to not stoke the flames.
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06-11-2017, 11:13 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 08:52 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  Not to interrupt the gun chat, but...has all the atheist stuff turned out to be a hoax? Just checked Foxnews, if this loser jackhole posted a bunch of anti-Christian pro-atheism rants they would be the ones to play it up as primary cause (him being an unhappy angry asshole wife-and-child-beater would be distant second). I hope it turns out there is no connection (actually I hope it turns out he was the children's bible study director, but that's probably asking too much).

Yes the infamous Faux news would certainly play up any atheist theme.
But since when did something have to be factual for Faux news to report it as much.

I read a report on the shooter that had some info that turned out to be true ( of course doesn't mean it all is) but one of the things mentioned was the shooter was a one time bible study teacher. Would not be surprised if it turned out to be at the same church.

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06-11-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 09:58 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  So Stephen Willeford just gave an interview on the Texas shooting. He heard shooting going on from his house, his house is about a block away from the church, he retrieved his AR-15 from his safe along with a fist full of bullets (he had no magazines preloaded in his safe) and started loading it on the go.

Exiting his house he travelled on foot (barefoot) to the church and arrived just as the shooter was exiting the building. The shooter was wearing a SWAT-style tactical helmet as well as a front and rear facing bullet-proof vest. They exchanged gunfire with Mr. Willeford striking the shooter in the side were the vest doesn't cover causing the shooter to drop his weapon and climbed inside his vehicle and speed off.

Mr. Willeford flagged down a motorist, explained the situation, and both men gave pursuit of the shooter's vehicle. While pursuing they got in contact with Police and helped direct them to where the shooter was. Eventually, the shooter lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a ditch at which point Mr. Willeford's driver parked his vehicle and Mr. Willeford got out and kept his rifle pointed at the crashed vehicle until police arrived about 7ish minutes later. When a single squad car showed up, he put his firearm on the hood and stepped away at which point the officer told him to get back to his weapon. He kept his weapon trained on the location of the shooter until about six other officers showed up and were able to escort Mr. Willeford and his driver to safety.

Mr. Willeford was told by police later that the shooter had multiple weapons in the vehicle as well as a lot of extra ammunition, so it's likely, though not confirmed, that the man intended to continue his murders. Mr. Willeford is a former NRA weapons instructor. He also made a point of saying that had he gone up against an active shooter with a bullet-proof vest with his pistol and not his rifle it probably would have been pointless.

As to be expected lots of Christian god talk but if you want to watch the interview it's here.

That's actually a really good interview, though I know some of the people here are going to have trouble looking past the fact that he's a religious NRA instructor with an AR-15, and he's undoubtedly going to become a poster child in future debates of this nature...

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06-11-2017, 11:30 PM
RE: Texas Church Shooting
(06-11-2017 11:21 PM)yakherder Wrote:  
(06-11-2017 09:58 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  So Stephen Willeford just gave an interview on the Texas shooting. He heard shooting going on from his house, his house is about a block away from the church, he retrieved his AR-15 from his safe along with a fist full of bullets (he had no magazines preloaded in his safe) and started loading it on the go.

Exiting his house he travelled on foot (barefoot) to the church and arrived just as the shooter was exiting the building. The shooter was wearing a SWAT-style tactical helmet as well as a front and rear facing bullet-proof vest. They exchanged gunfire with Mr. Willeford striking the shooter in the side were the vest doesn't cover causing the shooter to drop his weapon and climbed inside his vehicle and speed off.

Mr. Willeford flagged down a motorist, explained the situation, and both men gave pursuit of the shooter's vehicle. While pursuing they got in contact with Police and helped direct them to where the shooter was. Eventually, the shooter lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a ditch at which point Mr. Willeford's driver parked his vehicle and Mr. Willeford got out and kept his rifle pointed at the crashed vehicle until police arrived about 7ish minutes later. When a single squad car showed up, he put his firearm on the hood and stepped away at which point the officer told him to get back to his weapon. He kept his weapon trained on the location of the shooter until about six other officers showed up and were able to escort Mr. Willeford and his driver to safety.

Mr. Willeford was told by police later that the shooter had multiple weapons in the vehicle as well as a lot of extra ammunition, so it's likely, though not confirmed, that the man intended to continue his murders. Mr. Willeford is a former NRA weapons instructor. He also made a point of saying that had he gone up against an active shooter with a bullet-proof vest with his pistol and not his rifle it probably would have been pointless.

As to be expected lots of Christian god talk but if you want to watch the interview it's here.

That's actually a really good interview, though I know some of the people here are going to have trouble looking past the fact that he's a religious NRA instructor with an AR-15, and he's undoubtedly going to become a poster child in future debates of this nature...
Few people here will see Crowders face and just turn it off lol

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