Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
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13-07-2013, 12:56 PM
RE: Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
Coming from someone who's pro-choice, twenty weeks isn't so bad. It could have been a lot worse. I sort of see it as a compromise, the alternative being banning them altogether.

Still, if I had my way, I would turn up my nose at such restrictions.

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13-07-2013, 01:02 PM
RE: Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
(13-07-2013 12:52 PM)Anjele Wrote:  I agree Girly...so if they start checking to see if clinics meet the standards we will find out that either there will still be plenty of clinics or there are clinics that need to be closed from a medical standards viewpoint.

I will wait to see what actually gets signed...

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13-07-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
The biggest issue are the things (states -- not just texas) require that haven't a damn thing to do with patient care or even safety. They've discovered a way to close down clinics (which do much more than perform abortions) by making them do costly remodels or lose their licensing. This directly has an impact on women seeking other services, forcing them to travel hundreds of miles or across state lines.


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13-07-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
(13-07-2013 01:06 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  They've discovered a way to close down clinics (which do much more than perform abortions) ...

Like PAP smears, breast and ovarian cancer screening, HPV vaccines, basic gynecological services. ...

(13-07-2013 01:06 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  This directly has an impact on women seeking other services, forcing them to travel hundreds of miles or across state lines.

Like George says, they're fundamentally anti-woman. Now get your pregnant barefoot ass back in the kitchen and make me a sammich. .... What? ... No no ManlyGirl I wasn't talking to you. Please don't beat me.

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13-07-2013, 01:19 PM
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And what's with restricting Plan B?

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13-07-2013, 01:48 PM
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(13-07-2013 01:19 PM)Chas Wrote:  And what's with restricting Plan B?

Just 'cause it ain't gonna fly don't mean fools ain't gonna try. Tongue

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13-07-2013, 02:25 PM
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There has to be a rational basis for the restriction to require membership on a hospital staff, or having a hospital within a certain number of miles. There is not. There is no reason for the medical requirements, based on safety statistics, (unless Texas doctors are unusually stupid or inept).

Someone will no doubt, file for an injunction, pending an appeal. I think the objective, ultimately, is for this to go to the SCOTUS. There is no medical reason for the medical requirements, based on safety statistics.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-...d-abortion
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/...rtion.html
http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/ab...afety.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/2...CW20121220
http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2013/01/13403/s...assistants

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13-07-2013, 02:37 PM
RE: Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
I must point out to those troubled by "late term" abortions that the vast majority are performed where either the fetus poses a health threat to the mother or is not viable outside the womb. There is a second group where young women have been sexually assaulted by close family members and were afraid to report the pregnancy until they were far along in the pregnancy. There are also some preformed because the pregnant women would be psychologically damaged by giving birth.

It is my understanding that very few "late term" abortions are performed simply because the mother took a long time to make up her mind.

That said the new Texas law is essentially like many anti abortion laws. An attempt to outlaw abortion that is trying to appear as something else.
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13-07-2013, 03:07 PM
Texas Passes tough new Abortion Law
I am a pro-choice.

and I don't have any false pretenses as for the reasons for abortions.

Abortions are a lifestyle choice, one or two people don't want to be bothered with raising a kid at that point so they get an abortion (read the first sentence of this post again). Most abortions are not medically necessary.
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13-07-2013, 03:17 PM
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I hate it, but I agree with what you said I&I.

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