The Atheist's Conversation at the Great White Throne
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15-08-2014, 07:37 PM
RE: The Atheist's Conversation at the Great White Throne
(15-08-2014 07:30 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  I do blame the naturalist system.

So you think there is something wrong with the naturalistic only system that's why you blame it? Have you considered the reason why there is something wrong with it is because it is a lie and that theism is true?
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15-08-2014, 07:49 PM
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My opinion of what's right and wrong has no bearing on whether it's true or not. It's a rookie move to let your emotions become evidence. The arguments against religion and your bible are so numerous I couldn't possibly count them all.

Now, about that paint... Eternal coat, or satin finish???

If Jesus died for our sins, why is there still sin? If man was created from dust, why is there still dust? If Americans came from Europe, why are there still Europeans?
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15-08-2014, 07:51 PM
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(15-08-2014 07:49 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  My opinion of what's right and wrong has no bearing on whether it's true or not. It's a rookie move to let your emotions become evidence. The arguments against religion and your bible are so numerous I couldn't possibly count them all.

I agree your opinion is meaningless since it is too subjective. Since you can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles yet still refuse to give your life to Christ shows you are letting your emotions get the better of you. The feeling you are feeling right now is the pride of life.
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15-08-2014, 07:56 PM
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The unsaved "shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" (Rev. 20.10), "and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (v.15).
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15-08-2014, 07:56 PM
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Actually, I can't find proof the writings of the bible are true. No emotion involved.

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15-08-2014, 07:57 PM
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Do you believe hell is not annihilation of the soul, but eternal suffering, separation and punishment for the unsaved once they are resurrected to the Great White Throne (after the millennial kingdom) to be judged, then cast into the fire (Rev. 19.20, 20.10,15)? "And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire" (v.14) which is hell. Unlike any natural fire that burns out, this one never does. "He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone" (14.10), and "they have no rest day nor night" (v.11), for it "will never burn out" (Matt. 25.41). They "will never die, and the fire that burns them will never go out" (Is. 66.24). This fire represents eternal judgment from which there is no escape nor would the unsaved want to leave this place, because they want to be eternally separated from God. This place has no love, no peace and no joy. Most of all it is without God's presence.
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15-08-2014, 08:04 PM
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Shame on the person who used these tactics on you. I'm truly sorry you believe these things. I know your repeating what was done to you, so I can't really be mad.

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15-08-2014, 08:05 PM
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All Atheists Go to Hell, Do not Pass Go

By learning to read God’s word through reading and praying, we gradually touch the spirit of the word. We become aware of the great distance which exists between our personal condition and the spirit of God’s word. Take, for instance, the passage in Philippians 3. 18-19, which reads: “For many walk, of whom I told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is perdition, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.” We may quite easily and correctly say that these are the enemies of God, whose end is perdition, but we have hardly touched the spirit of the writer of this Scripture passage. If we were to read through quickly, we would fail to touch the spirit of the writer. But if we were to pray and to read at the same time—if we were to put ourselves in the place and the heart of the writer—we would readily see how full of love is his heart.

"Do not fear them who can kill the body only rather fear Him who can destroy both the soul and body in hell" (Matt. 10.28). "Destroy" doesn't here mean annihilation, but in the lexicon: "render useless...to perish, to be lost, ruined...to lose...metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell...to put out of the way entirely, abolish." The unsaved can no longer do damage to the elect because they will be eternally separated from us like a prisoner locked in jail for life. "The hour is coming...unto the resurrection of life" and separated by a thousand years, some "unto the resurrection of damnation" (John 5.28-29). "He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him" (John 3.36). "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal" (Matt. 25.46). "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the exclusion of the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power" (2 Thess. 1.8-9).

Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" (Ez. 18.23). "For I have no pleasure in the death of any one, says the Lord GOD; so turn, and live" (Ez. 18.31). "Say to them, As I live, says the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?" (Ez. 33.11). God literally pleads with people. "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Pet. 3.9). "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim. 2.4). God being all loving implies that in any world He creates, He desires and strives for the salvation of every person in that world. But people who would freely reject His every effort to save them should not be allowed to dictate to God what worlds He would be free to create. Why should the joy and the blessedness of those who would freely accept God's salvation be precluded because of those who would stubbornly and freely reject it?
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15-08-2014, 08:07 PM
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(15-08-2014 08:04 PM)guitar_nut Wrote:  Shame on the person who used these tactics on you. I'm truly sorry you believe these things. I know your repeating what was done to you, so I can't really be mad.

When I got saved I never even heard of Hell, never even thought of Hell, but for some who are most decrepit such as yourself it is important to mention Hell will delivering the gospel, for to reject Christ is to go to Hell just as Jesus said.

Jesus said to Nicodemus, "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil" (John 3.19)
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15-08-2014, 08:07 PM
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Three identical posts within seconds of one another.

Spamming would be frowned on if the mods paid attention.

Rave on.

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