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06-07-2017, 05:32 PM
RE: The Cambrian Explosion
(06-07-2017 08:58 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 09:22 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  There is NO, and I repeat NO evidence what so ever for a global flood happening, EVER.

What about the dinosaur fossils? Some of them have been found to contain soft tissue, which would be impossible if they were millions of years old.

That would be impossible if they were four thousand years old, too. Do you have a point here?
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06-07-2017, 06:06 PM
The Cambrian Explosion
(05-07-2017 09:14 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 09:07 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Translation: here is some anti-science religious propaganda from some morons who think they know science better than scientists

We don't claim to know science better; we claim we know history better. There is one historical question that must be answered before we try to understand nature. Was the universe created by God or did it come about entirely as a result of natural processes? The belief that the earth is billions of years old and that life came about by a process of evolution is the result of accepting the second alternative. Those who deny evolution do so because we accept the first answer.

Your question presumes the existence of a god who created the universe. Therefore your question is a non-starter. This is beside the point that your question isn’t really a question of history; it’s a scientific question.
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06-07-2017, 07:01 PM
RE: The Cambrian Explosion
(06-07-2017 08:58 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 09:22 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  There is NO, and I repeat NO evidence what so ever for a global flood happening, EVER.

What about the dinosaur fossils? Some of them have been found to contain soft tissue, which would be impossible if they were millions of years old.

Here, read this. It explains in fairly simple terms the precess the paleontologist used. http://biologos.org/blogs/jim-stump-fait...really-say

By the way, the paleontologist who found and examined the dinosaur bones was a Christian and has been attacked by evangelicals for refusing to denounce evolution. Religious right evalgelical Christians are too damned lazy to take the time and read the details of this case, process the information and understand it. They just want it spoon fed to them through filtered religious sources so they don't have to actually think for themselves. I'm not even a sciency kind of person but I took some time to read several accounts of Dr. Mary Schweitzer discovery.

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07-07-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: The Cambrian Explosion
(05-07-2017 09:14 AM)theophilus Wrote:  We don't claim to know science better; we claim we know history better. There is one historical question that must be answered before we try to understand nature. Was the universe created by God or did it come about entirely as a result of natural processes?
This is not a historical question, its question to be answered by the so called *hard* sciences. Facepalm
This is because we most likely wont be able to find documents, recordings or other evidence left by people who lived at the time in question (aka the big bang).
By the way: answering the question about the origin of the universe before we try to understand nature? Facepalm You dont feel the irony, do you?

(05-07-2017 09:14 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The belief that the earth is billions of years old and that life came about by a process of evolution is the result of accepting the second alternative. Those who deny evolution do so because we accept the first answer.
Yeah, thats your problem: You start with the conclusion, then work your way towards it with your bias.
Intellectual honest people with epistemologies worth a shit work their way up based on availiable evidence and then conclude what may have caused the earth to exist or life to arise.
Why did i say "then"? because we tend to find out the more simple things first and then the more complex stuff. Of course this is irrelevant to someone who starts his day with accepting answers to the most complex questions, without good reasons to do so, and thn proceeds to think about the more easy stuff (like understanding nature). Facepalm

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09-07-2017, 10:52 AM
RE: The Cambrian Explosion
(06-07-2017 08:58 AM)theophilus Wrote:  What about the dinosaur fossils? Some of them have been found to contain soft tissue, which would be impossible if they were millions of years old.
The oldest know human mummies, NATURAL mummies, that we have found are about 5000 years old. Animals have also naturally mummified. We do seem to have a distinct lack of dinosaur mummies.
And yes, we've found soft tissue inside of fossilized bones. But at a maximum of 6000 years of age, (or about 10,000 years depending on your denomination), we would also expect to find actual bones too, not just fossilized ones.

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09-07-2017, 11:07 AM
RE: The Cambrian Explosion
(09-07-2017 10:52 AM)LostLocke Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 08:58 AM)theophilus Wrote:  What about the dinosaur fossils? Some of them have been found to contain soft tissue, which would be impossible if they were millions of years old.
The oldest know human mummies, NATURAL mummies, that we have found are about 5000 years old. Animals have also naturally mummified. We do seem to have a distinct lack of dinosaur mummies.
And yes, we've found soft tissue inside of fossilized bones. But at a maximum of 6000 years of age, (or about 10,000 years depending on your denomination), we would also expect to find actual bones too, not just fossilized ones.
Mastodon bones, dire wolf bones, indricothere bones, whale bones (legs included), all kinds of bones. And dinosaur bones, not rocks that are shaped like dinosaur bones, bones that have had ALL the original matter replaced by stone.

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