The Case For Legalizing Steroids
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04-08-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
I'm not so impressed with the Performance Enhancing Ability of this shit. If you can't hit a baseball thrown 95 mph all the steroids in the world will not change that.

Maybe in football where size, in itself, matters.

But one of the arguments against steroids - to quote George Carlin - is "what about the fucking children?" Side effects for the long term usage of steroids are:

Side effects of long-term steroid use includes:

Glaucoma
Cataracts
High-blood pressure
Heart disease
Diabetes mellitus
Obesity
Acid reflux/GERD
Osteoporosis
Myopathy
Increase in certain types of infections
Cushing syndrome

(About.com)

Now, contrast that with this list of known side-effects for ritalin which is given to kids like it was fucking M & M's.

Quote:Abdominal pain
Aggressive or hostile
behavior
Agitation
Angina (sudden acute pain)
Anorexia
Blisters or rash
Blood pressure and pulse
changes
Changes in mood
Changes in sex drive or
ability
Changes in vision or
blurred vision
Chest pain
Constipation
Depression
Diarrhea
Difficulty breathing or
swallowing
Difficulty falling asleep or
staying asleep
Dizziness or faintness
Drowsiness
Dry mouth
Fast, pounding, or irregular
heartbeat
Fever
Hallucinations
Headaches
Heartburn
Hives
Hoarseness
Hypersensitivity
Increased irritability
Insomnia
Involuntary tics and
twitching
Itching
Liver problems
Loss of appetite
Mania
Mental/mood changes
Muscle or joint pain
Nausea
Nervousness
Painful menstruation
Psychosis
Purple blotches under
the skin
Rash
Restlessness
Seizures
Slow or difficult speech
Sore throat
Stomach pain
Stuffed or runny nose
Stunted growth
Suicidal thoughts
Swelling inside the nose
Swelling of the eyes, face,
tongue, or throat
Toxic psychosis
Unusual bleeding or
bruising
Unusual sadness or crying
Unusual weakness or
tiredness
Violent behavior
Vomiting
Weakness or numbness of
an arm or leg
Weight loss
“Zombie” demeanor

Could it be that the "authorities" are full of shit?
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04-08-2013, 04:48 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
(04-08-2013 04:44 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  I'm not so impressed with the Performance Enhancing Ability of this shit. If you can't hit a baseball thrown 95 mph all the steroids in the world will not change that.

Well, that's hardly the point; one who can hit it will be able to do so much better.

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04-08-2013, 05:15 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
(04-08-2013 04:44 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  I'm not so impressed with the Performance Enhancing Ability of this shit. If you can't hit a baseball thrown 95 mph all the steroids in the world will not change that.

Maybe in football where size, in itself, matters.

But one of the arguments against steroids - to quote George Carlin - is "what about the fucking children?" Side effects for the long term usage of steroids are:

Side effects of long-term steroid use includes:

Glaucoma
Cataracts
High-blood pressure
Heart disease
Diabetes mellitus
Obesity
Acid reflux/GERD
Osteoporosis
Myopathy
Increase in certain types of infections
Cushing syndrome

(About.com)

Now, contrast that with this list of known side-effects for ritalin which is given to kids like it was fucking M & M's.

Quote:Abdominal pain
Aggressive or hostile
behavior
Agitation
Angina (sudden acute pain)
Anorexia
Blisters or rash
Blood pressure and pulse
changes
Changes in mood
Changes in sex drive or
ability
Changes in vision or
blurred vision
Chest pain
Constipation
Depression
Diarrhea
Difficulty breathing or
swallowing
Difficulty falling asleep or
staying asleep
Dizziness or faintness
Drowsiness
Dry mouth
Fast, pounding, or irregular
heartbeat
Fever
Hallucinations
Headaches
Heartburn
Hives
Hoarseness
Hypersensitivity
Increased irritability
Insomnia
Involuntary tics and
twitching
Itching
Liver problems
Loss of appetite
Mania
Mental/mood changes
Muscle or joint pain
Nausea
Nervousness
Painful menstruation
Psychosis
Purple blotches under
the skin
Rash
Restlessness
Seizures
Slow or difficult speech
Sore throat
Stomach pain
Stuffed or runny nose
Stunted growth
Suicidal thoughts
Swelling inside the nose
Swelling of the eyes, face,
tongue, or throat
Toxic psychosis
Unusual bleeding or
bruising
Unusual sadness or crying
Unusual weakness or
tiredness
Violent behavior
Vomiting
Weakness or numbness of
an arm or leg
Weight loss
“Zombie” demeanor

Could it be that the "authorities" are full of shit?


Even worse, Few of the side effects you listed for Testosterone are true. About.com is full of shit on this.

For all known clinical side effects of Testosterone, see the FDA's fact sheet

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/depo-testostero...fects.html

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04-08-2013, 06:03 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
(04-08-2013 05:15 PM)Carlo_The_Bugsmasher_Driver Wrote:  Even worse, Few of the side effects you listed for Testosterone are true. About.com is full of shit on this.

For all known clinical side effects of Testosterone, see the FDA's fact sheet

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/depo-testostero...fects.html

Depression, carcinoma of the prostate, numerous potentially life-threatening hepatic side effects, anemia, and mood swings all seem pretty serious. I don't know though, I am neutral to this topic.

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04-08-2013, 06:12 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
I had an ex that was into the whole 'roid thing.
He had 'roid rage a few times so that was the end of that relationship!@!!
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04-08-2013, 06:46 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
(04-08-2013 06:03 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 05:15 PM)Carlo_The_Bugsmasher_Driver Wrote:  Even worse, Few of the side effects you listed for Testosterone are true. About.com is full of shit on this.

For all known clinical side effects of Testosterone, see the FDA's fact sheet

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/depo-testostero...fects.html

Depression, carcinoma of the prostate, numerous potentially life-threatening hepatic side effects, anemia, and mood swings all seem pretty serious. I don't know though, I am neutral to this topic.

6+ years juicing now, brother. Topical steroids don't have no hepatic effects or any of the other ones you indicate. ... Time for Girly to motherfucking juice, bitch.

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04-08-2013, 08:17 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
I chose About for the list because others that I checked said they were only issuing a partial list of side effects.

This came from the CDC.


Quote:Possible side effects of short-term corticosteroid use:

Upset stomach
Increased blood sugar
Increased hunger
Behavior changes, trouble sleeping, irritability
Increased risk of pneumonia, thrush (white coating in the mouth), and other infections
Weight gain, salt and water retention
High blood pressure
Increased fat on the face (rounded face), upper back, and belly
Stretch marks on the skin, acne, poor wound healing, increased and unusual hair growth


Possible side effects of long-term use (3 months or longer):

All short-term side effects
Poor growth in children (can be severe)
Brittle bones (bones break easily, problems with hips and shoulder joints)
Muscle weakness
Diabetes
Eye problems
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04-08-2013, 08:34 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
So what? 100% of people who drink water die... I don't like all this over protection of people by the state. Unless is extremely dangerous, like meth or something, any drug should be allowed no matter the side effects.

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04-08-2013, 08:56 PM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2013 09:00 PM by ridethespiral.)
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(04-08-2013 08:34 PM)nach_in Wrote:  So what? 100% of people who drink water die... I don't like all this over protection of people by the state. Unless is extremely dangerous, like meth or something, any drug should be allowed no matter the side effects.

Provided I don't have to pay to fix ones 'meth mouth' or chronic lung disease or horrific infection, etc., etc...

I would support decriminalization across the board mind you. It's just that the truly harmful stuff just compounds the impending healthcare crisis, so it really need to be a 'swim at your own risk' kinda thing.

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04-08-2013, 09:09 PM
RE: The Case For Legalizing Steroids
(04-08-2013 08:56 PM)ridethespiral Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 08:34 PM)nach_in Wrote:  So what? 100% of people who drink water die... I don't like all this over protection of people by the state. Unless is extremely dangerous, like meth or something, any drug should be allowed no matter the side effects.

Provided I don't have to pay to fix ones 'meth mouth' or chronic lung disease or horrific infection, etc., etc...

I would support decriminalization across the board mind you. It's just that the truly harmful stuff just compounds the impending healthcare crisis, so it really need to be a 'swim at your own risk' kinda thing.

Even paying for their meth mouth would be cheaper than what we have now. The cost in terms of inneffective law enforcement, jailing costs, crime caused by addicts who are desperate.

Fuckit, give them healthcare. At least they have a higher chance of contributing to society. Allot of the horrific stuff happens because of the illegality of said substance. It forces them to become outcasts.

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