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19-11-2012, 03:00 PM
RE: The Case for Teaching Cursive Writing...
I can curse any time I write.

What's the fucking problem?

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19-11-2012, 03:05 PM
RE: The Case for Teaching Cursive Writing...
(19-11-2012 02:57 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  
(19-11-2012 02:43 PM)Julius Wrote:  Do you take notes at meetings - or when talking to colleagues or customers - or at a business lunch?
I take my laptop to meetings like those. I also have a great memory so I rarely take notes; people often ask my why I don't take notes and then they are surprised when I fill in the blanks or correct mistakes in the notes they took. When I do take notes, I type them. It's faster. I type about 90 words a minute; I cannot write that fast in any type of writing (but admittedly I never learned shorthand which might be that fast, I don't really know).

I get it. Cursive is faster than printing. If you need to take notes, that's the way to go (unless you know shorthand). But, frankly, even in meetings like that, I see people all the time say "Hey, wait, lemme write that down" and the discussion stops while everyone waits for the person to write it down. If the meeting is important and the notes are important, then nobody minds getting it written down correctly.

One place I do take handwritten notes is when I interview an engineer. I bring his resume and a list of questions to the interview and I write down his responses. I don't ask him to stop so I can have time to take notes. I still manage to get by without cursive.

So I still maintain that if people stopped using it in the media, I would never use it or see it and wouldn't miss it at all.
When I used to work as a Test Engineer, I was always amazed at the number of younger engineers who couldn't write in cursive - all of them. As a result, they were always leaning on the older guys to fill them in about what happened during a test 8 hours - or even a week prior. Their inability to take notes real-time compromised their ability to observe and diagnose...much less formulate a solution. In an engineering test lab, one stupid, low-tech notebook with a pencil is worth more than a thousand laptops.
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19-11-2012, 03:11 PM
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Hm. I think it is a good idea to teach it. It is possible that certain brain stuff is triggered by learning an aesthetic skill, such as writing script or reading music... which people are rarely taught to do anymore, either. Seems to me that it is connected to a skill set with a built in flexibility to encourage creativity. Those things are usually handy to have around during critical thinking.

Never know what one might need for brain development. I'd rather give my brains a jump on stupidity.

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19-11-2012, 03:57 PM (This post was last modified: 19-11-2012 04:01 PM by Diablo666.)
RE: The Case for Teaching Cursive Writing...
(19-11-2012 02:24 PM)Julius Wrote:  The Kansas State Board of Education is debating whether or not they should continue advocating the teaching of Cursive writing. (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/16/391...sive.html) Through the years, less and less time is being spent teaching Cursive Writing throughout the nations schools and many feel that the time to teach Cursive Writing is long gone - that Cursive writing is no longer relavent. Indeed, it is hard to find anyone under 35-years-old with a functional ability to write in the cursive script.

Is there a case for the continued teaching of Cursive Writing? Although I think I can make an air-tight case for the teaching of cursive writing, I haven't see anyone else do it. What do you think?
A better question is when the fuck was it ever relevant. They should have stopped a long ass time ago.

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19-11-2012, 04:00 PM (This post was last modified: 19-11-2012 09:23 PM by Dark Light.)
RE: The Case for Teaching Cursive Writing...
What? Hitchens' signature is every bit as shitty as mine. If this is the argument to keep it then I will change my mind and say we should axe it. Smile

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19-11-2012, 04:03 PM (This post was last modified: 19-11-2012 04:47 PM by Diablo666.)
RE: The Case for Teaching Cursive Writing...
(19-11-2012 03:11 PM)kim Wrote:  Hm. I think it is a good idea to teach it. It is possible that certain brain stuff is triggered by learning an aesthetic skill, such as writing script or reading music... which people are rarely taught to do anymore, either. Seems to me that it is connected to a skill set with a built in flexibility to encourage creativity. Those things are usually handy to have around during critical thinking.

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Everyone who argues shit should be taught for some mystical secondary and tertiary benefit should be lined up and shot. Maybe you also find sniffing assholes like a dog to be enlightening as well. Maybe we should teach that too! I like to read the phone book, so lets force kids to do that as well. Might have to up their ritalin a bit, but fuck it....or better yet fuck them.

You so called "intellectual" exemplify what is wrong with the education system in general.
Force students to take garbage that doesn't matter at all to them, or in this case at all, just because you think it has hidden benefits. In the end its all just watered down and the kids turn off to education in general.
Then you wonder why the fucking kids can't stand this shit. Ohh must be something wrong with these kids then!
Then comes the ritalin, or wtf ever it is these days.
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19-11-2012, 04:34 PM
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Yeeeowtch! Easy there, big fella. Easy.

Have you had your Ritalin today?

I like to think I am rather intellectual, and I don't think the problem with the education system in general is forcing students to learn cursive. Nor do I blame the kids or turn to mood-altering drugs as a solution. Far from it. It would take a whole new forum to discuss the problems with the US educational system - one thread can't do it.

You're way off base if you think intellectuals forcing kids to learn cursive is why kids aren't learning, and the vituperation with which you express your point emphasizes that there are probably some of your own underlying issues leading you to this faulty conclusion.

Or to put it in simpler terms, chillax, dude, cursive ain't the problem here.

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19-11-2012, 04:51 PM
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(19-11-2012 04:34 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  Yeeeowtch! Easy there, big fella. Easy.

Have you had your Ritalin today?

I like to think I am rather intellectual, and I don't think the problem with the education system in general is forcing students to learn cursive. Nor do I blame the kids or turn to mood-altering drugs as a solution. Far from it. It would take a whole new forum to discuss the problems with the US educational system - one thread can't do it.

You're way off base if you think intellectuals forcing kids to learn cursive is why kids aren't learning, and the vituperation with which you express your point emphasizes that there are probably some of your own underlying issues leading you to this faulty conclusion.

Or to put it in simpler terms, chillax, dude, cursive ain't the problem here.
Yes it is. It is a complete and utter waste of time to teach kids this crap. That time could be better spent doing absolutely anything.

Faulty conclusions? Says the guy with no argument other than chillax. Well aren't you just the cool kid on the internet...
You either dropped out of the third grade, or you are one of the idiots who think everything has hidden benefits and should be taught.
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19-11-2012, 04:59 PM
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While I tend to block print on forms and the like, most of the time I write in cursive. Well, near cursive... everybody develops their own style, you know? If the dinguses in Kansas don't want to learn it, fine. It's their loss. It's just one more good thing they're flushing away. Someone I greatly dislike but am compelled to deal with on a regular basis handed back a sheet I'd given her that was written in cursive, saying, "Ugh, I can't read this." Really? You're forty-one and you don't have the patience to read -- oh, wait, there it is. The whinger didn't want to expend one iota of extra effort to read *gasp* cursive handwriting. Empty people.

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19-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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(19-11-2012 04:59 PM)calmblueocean Wrote:  While I tend to block print on forms and the like, most of the time I write in cursive. Well, near cursive... everybody develops their own style, you know? If the dinguses in Kansas don't want to learn it, fine. It's their loss. It's just one more good thing they're flushing away. Someone I greatly dislike but am compelled to deal with on a regular basis handed back a sheet I'd given her that was written in cursive, saying, "Ugh, I can't read this." Really? You're forty-one and you don't have the patience to read -- oh, wait, there it is. The whinger didn't want to expend one iota of extra effort to read *gasp* cursive handwriting. Empty people.

...(/rant)
Only one problem, you lack an argument as to why they should teach it.

She probably can't read it, because you decided to develop your own "STYLE". Another reason this shit is useless btw...no one else can read it!
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