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11-06-2014, 11:20 AM
The Christians arguments for religion
The argument that I am contemplating is the one poses the question: what do atheists have as a replacement for religion?

I am not familiar with a consistent response from my critically thinking atheist brothers and sisters, and I think I came up with the best solution to the puzzle

How about some of their other arguments that they use to support the need for religion?

1. replacement for religion
2. religion guards morality
3. religion is sexy
4. religion keeps atheists on their toes
5. atheists wouldn't have anything to organize for
6.

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11-06-2014, 11:29 AM
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What exactly does religion offer that can't be achieved without religion, aside from belief in deities?

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11-06-2014, 11:37 AM
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(11-06-2014 11:20 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The argument that I am contemplating is the one poses the question: what do atheists have as a replacement for religion?

I am not familiar with a consistent response from my critically thinking atheist brothers and sisters, and I think I came up with the best solution to the puzzle

How about some of their other arguments that they use to support the need for religion?

1. replacement for religion
2. religion guards morality
3. religion is sexy
4. religion keeps atheists on their toes
5. atheists wouldn't have anything to organize for
6.

A fully integrated and validated philosophy that is based on objective reality and not
on mystical supernatural revelations and faith or belief in the imaginary. That would be my answer to the question of what should replace religion.

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11-06-2014, 11:57 AM
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In a way, asking "How do you replace religion?" is like asking "How do you replace cancer?" Answer: You don't. You get rid of it (if you're lucky) and move on.
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11-06-2014, 12:11 PM
RE: The Christians arguments for religion
(11-06-2014 11:57 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  In a way, asking "How do you replace religion?" is like asking "How do you replace cancer?" Answer: You don't. You get rid of it (if you're lucky) and move on.

And we know Mak Twain made the argument a hundred years ago, along with some other well known philosophers; but certainly before that time religion was a considerable help in organizing communities and society - what are you going to do with all the stupid people???

Do atheists believe that something beneficial will happen to improve stupid people subsequent to the demise of religion; and subsequently solve the problems of the world?

Will it mean that we will recognize who are more reasonable leaders are?

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11-06-2014, 12:12 PM
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What the hell did I just read? Blink

(11-06-2014 11:20 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The argument that I am contemplating is the one poses the question: what do atheists have as a replacement for religion?
Nothing because a replacement isn't needed.

(11-06-2014 11:20 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  I am not familiar with a consistent response from my critically thinking atheist brothers and sisters, and I think I came up with the best solution to the puzzle
Ok... and that would be...?

(11-06-2014 11:20 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  How about some of their other arguments that they use to support the need for religion?

1. replacement for religion
2. religion guards morality
3. religion is sexy
4. religion keeps atheists on their toes
5. atheists wouldn't have anything to organize for
6.
If this was supposed to be your "solution", I don't get it. Please speak English.

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11-06-2014, 02:49 PM
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(11-06-2014 11:29 AM)One Above All Wrote:  What exactly does religion offer that can't be achieved without religion, aside from belief in deities?

The remission of sins.
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11-06-2014, 02:59 PM
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(11-06-2014 02:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:29 AM)One Above All Wrote:  What exactly does religion offer that can't be achieved without religion, aside from belief in deities?

The remission of sins.

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11-06-2014, 03:03 PM
RE: The Christians arguments for religion
(11-06-2014 02:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:29 AM)One Above All Wrote:  What exactly does religion offer that can't be achieved without religion, aside from belief in deities?

The remission of sins.

Why would that be better?
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11-06-2014, 03:29 PM
RE: The Christians arguments for religion
(11-06-2014 02:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:29 AM)One Above All Wrote:  What exactly does religion offer that can't be achieved without religion, aside from belief in deities?

The remission of sins.

"Sin" is a product of religion. Therefore, when religion goes away, so does the need to "remiss" any "sins". Besides, that's not really an offer, is it? You "offer" a problem, then you "offer" the solution. Sounds more like "It's a shame such a nice window got broken... If only there was someone you could have payed in order to avoid that...".

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