The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
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02-11-2012, 10:34 PM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(02-11-2012 10:27 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Why does reading this thread remind me of gay porn Confused
It's all metaphor, A^2. I think. Consider

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02-11-2012, 10:38 PM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(02-11-2012 10:34 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 10:27 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Why does reading this thread remind me of gay porn Confused
It's all metaphor, A^2. I think. Consider
Well then, that metaphor better not fuck me up the ass as well. I already have enough people trying to fuck me over I don't need a concept to go against.

Now, as to the thread subject. I guess the only way it really is inconceivable is through NATURAL(Logical) means. Once you believe in a God that can do anything, postmortem preservation of identity is quite conceivable. Basically an All-Powerful God idea gives the humans permission not to think logically or rationally... For all we know cake could be the salvation of the world and the key to postmortem preservation... Because god is All-powerful.

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02-11-2012, 10:40 PM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(02-11-2012 10:27 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Why does reading this thread remind me of gay porn Confused
to be reminded one must first have experienced...

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02-11-2012, 10:41 PM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(02-11-2012 10:40 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 10:27 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  Why does reading this thread remind me of gay porn Confused
to be reminded one must first have experienced...
Curiosity doesn't mean anything Earmuffs. I wanted to see, and then I found out I was straight.

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02-11-2012, 10:47 PM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
Actually most porn is SO gross, it's enough to make a monk or nun out of anyone.

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03-11-2012, 07:04 AM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
What's inconceivable to me is how anybody with two brain cells to rub together actually believes in this shit. Dodgy

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03-11-2012, 07:50 AM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2012 08:41 AM by Vera.)
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(02-11-2012 10:08 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  So the question is, what is "consciousness" ?



http://www.thebigview.com/mind/nonlocal.html

EDIT: No, I really can't keep it up... That's where someone directed me once during a similar discussion No

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03-11-2012, 08:16 AM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.



When you bring up a memory, your brain actually "re-records" it ! (9:23)

http://mcb.berkeley.edu/courses/mcb160/F...ngs/Kandel review 2001.pdf
http://www.learner.org/courses/biology/t...uro_9.html

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03-11-2012, 09:01 AM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
(03-11-2012 08:16 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  When you bring up a memory, your brain actually "re-records" it ! (9:23)
I did not know this; it sure does explain why memories can actually change over time. Fascinating.
(First link doesn't work btw, but the second led me to reading about other stuff, too... let's see where I end up by the time I'm done. That's why I love the Internet.)

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03-11-2012, 11:16 AM
RE: The Concept of a Postmortem Preservation of Identity is Inconceivable.
This is what I think:

There are countless processes going on in the brain at any one time, some that we have identified, some that we haven't.

Some of these are totally "unconsciously" performed and not consciously controllable, like healing a wound. Some become conscious only when they malfunction, like breathing. Some are totally conscious, like thinking of replies in a discussion.

I see it as a chain of events happening in the brain, and only when certain criteria are met are they submitted to the highest instance - and that instance is what I call consciousness.

So to me consciousness is that which initiates purposeful actions.

Obviously, when the brain is dead none of this is happening.

So then you can try to figure out if this "consciousness" is a physical part of the brain or a "soul" type thing.

That would be what this discussion is about.

Well, if it were a "soul" type thing, what would submit items for decisions if the brain was dead? Nothing. So can you then still call it consciouness? Not in my opinion.

Which leads us back to the fact that everything we know in nature tends to get recycled over time. So even if there were a "soul" type thingie, barren of anything to prompt it into action, it is likely recycled. Which means it gets absorbed by something else. That means it has lost whatever identity it had when you were alive.

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