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14-07-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
Another thing Ham is ignorant of is the fact that half the visitors to the Ark Encounter have only gone there to see what their common sense tells them can't possibly exist in an enlightened 21st century—and to have a damn good laugh at the same time.

And in case people are wondering why, as a born and bred Aussie, Ham didn't build his ark here in Australia, the answer's simple. As a nominally secular country, the population at large wouldn't have supported it had it been built, or allowed it to happen in the first place. He'd be lucky to get a hundred people through it each day.


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15-07-2017, 10:30 PM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
One of the clearest proofs that the ark story is fiction is that the ark was not constructed as a geodesic sphere. What every (and I mean EVERY) ark believer thinks is that the ark should look like a boat. But boats are ALWAYS propelled, and shaped for diminished drag and stability along the axis of propulsion. Ham's replica has a prow and stern that have the shape they have that would only matter if the vessel were propelled.

The geodesic sphere provides several advantages: it encloses the greatest volume with the least structural and surfacing materials, and its shape is structurally stable and doesn't require bracing against twist and bending stresses. A sphere could have been constructed much more quickly and more simply than a gigantic rectangular box, even without the superfluous prow and stern shaping for propulsion efficiency.

A competent god would certainly have understood the architecturally superior aspects of a geodesic sphere over a box and given direction accordingly. An outrigger ring would keep the sphere upright afloat.

This argument falls apart on the presumption of a competent god, of course, and given what that jackass of a god was doing, competence was NOT part of the picture, so that this oaf of a god said to build a square box instead of a sphere COULD have some credibility. But that leaves the devout worshipping as big a fool as they are. What's most likely is that the whole account is fiction.
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16-07-2017, 01:01 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
(15-07-2017 10:30 PM)Airportkid Wrote:  One of the clearest proofs that the ark story is fiction is that the ark was not constructed as a geodesic sphere. What every (and I mean EVERY) ark believer thinks is that the ark should look like a boat. But boats are ALWAYS propelled, and shaped for diminished drag and stability along the axis of propulsion. Ham's replica has a prow and stern that have the shape they have that would only matter if the vessel were propelled.

The geodesic sphere provides several advantages: it encloses the greatest volume with the least structural and surfacing materials, and its shape is structurally stable and doesn't require bracing against twist and bending stresses. A sphere could have been constructed much more quickly and more simply than a gigantic rectangular box, even without the superfluous prow and stern shaping for propulsion efficiency.

A competent god would certainly have understood the architecturally superior aspects of a geodesic sphere over a box and given direction accordingly. An outrigger ring would keep the sphere upright afloat.

This argument falls apart on the presumption of a competent god, of course, and given what that jackass of a god was doing, competence was NOT part of the picture, so that this oaf of a god said to build a square box instead of a sphere COULD have some credibility. But that leaves the devout worshipping as big a fool as they are. What's most likely is that the whole account is fiction.

But surely, the more miraculous it becomes that the Ark survived, the more evidence of God's protective hand it becomes! Yes

For that matter, God could just have created a magical bubble of air that stayed there, like an underwater base that doesn't need a glass dome, protecting family and animals alike until the waters subsided. As an added bonus, you'd get plants too. It would have been no less of a violation of myriad laws of nature than the ark story.

Or better yet, just hold the waters apart like in the Moses story. That's already on God's list of explicit powers, right? As a bonus, you create an open area the size of a largish nature preserve and you dispense with a million problems around space, feed, grazing, survival of plants, waste, wood-devouring animals...
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16-07-2017, 01:26 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
Fucking cheap ass swindling cocksucker...

Ark Encounter, To Avoid Paying Local “Safety Fee,” Now Says It’s a Ministry

Answers in Genesis is trying to screw over the city of Williamstown once again.

Having received a sweetheart deal to build Ark Encounter there, promising to create jobs then later saying they were only available to other fundamentalist Christians, and taking money from employees’ paychecks to help repay loans, the company now wants to avoid paying a “safety fee” like other ticket-taking attractions in the area.

That safety fee would help the city upgrade its emergency response equipment — which is important if Williamstown really wants to become a tourist destination — but the folks at Answers in Genesis say they should be exempt from paying it because they’re a religious ministry.

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16-07-2017, 04:09 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
They're a fucking business. They are selling a walk around a great big wooden box filled with stupid shite. Tax/fee exemption, in my opinion, should be for charitable (non-profit) organizations only and if Mr sHam can't provide evidence that this is the case, he can fuck off.

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17-07-2017, 05:06 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
(14-07-2017 07:43 AM)SYZ Wrote:  Another thing Ham is ignorant of is the fact that half the visitors to the Ark Encounter have only gone there to see what their common sense tells them can't possibly exist in an enlightened 21st century—and to have a damn good laugh at the same time.

And in case people are wondering why, as a born and bred Aussie, Ham didn't build his ark here in Australia, the answer's simple. As a nominally secular country, the population at large wouldn't have supported it had it been built, or allowed it to happen in the first place. He'd be lucky to get a hundred people through it each day.


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I don't see how it can succeed, one of the more popular amusement parks in the area, Six Flags Over Georgia, only costs $47.99 USD, that's an ACTUAL amusement park.

Just south of Louisville is Kentucky Kingdom which costs $44.95 USD.

Compare that to the $60 for the Ark Encounter Ark and Museum combo.

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17-07-2017, 06:39 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
(16-07-2017 01:26 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Fucking cheap ass swindling cocksucker...

Ark Encounter, To Avoid Paying Local “Safety Fee,” Now Says It’s a Ministry

Answers in Genesis is trying to screw over the city of Williamstown once again.

Having received a sweetheart deal to build Ark Encounter there, promising to create jobs then later saying they were only available to other fundamentalist Christians, and taking money from employees’ paychecks to help repay loans, the company now wants to avoid paying a “safety fee” like other ticket-taking attractions in the area.

That safety fee would help the city upgrade its emergency response equipment — which is important if Williamstown really wants to become a tourist destination — but the folks at Answers in Genesis say they should be exempt from paying it because they’re a religious ministry.
There was an article in The New York Times a day or two ago detailing all the people and groups Ham is blaming for the low attendance. Atheists were one of them, also the city of Williamstown, and a few others. He's just like our current Dear Leader: nothing is ever his fault.
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17-07-2017, 07:34 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
(17-07-2017 05:06 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  
(14-07-2017 07:43 AM)SYZ Wrote:  Another thing Ham is ignorant of is the fact that half the visitors to the Ark Encounter have only gone there to see what their common sense tells them can't possibly exist in an enlightened 21st century—and to have a damn good laugh at the same time.

And in case people are wondering why, as a born and bred Aussie, Ham didn't build his ark here in Australia, the answer's simple. As a nominally secular country, the population at large wouldn't have supported it had it been built, or allowed it to happen in the first place. He'd be lucky to get a hundred people through it each day.


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I don't see how it can succeed, one of the more popular amusement parks in the area, Six Flags Over Georgia, only costs $47.99 USD, that's an ACTUAL amusement park.

Just south of Louisville is Kentucky Kingdom which costs $44.95 USD.

Compare that to the $60 for the Ark Encounter Ark and Museum combo.

Wow, I didn't realise it was so greedily priced. Or perhaps displaying God's "efficiency" isn't quite working out.

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17-07-2017, 07:47 AM
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
If Ken Ham had taken up the Islamic faith as an adult, would he have changed his surname to something more... um... palatable? Tongue

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18-07-2017, 05:52 AM (This post was last modified: 18-07-2017 06:02 AM by Silly Deity.)
RE: The Creationist Museum Is Failing, And Ken Ham Is Blaming Atheists
Now Kenny Boy is pulling a shady deal to get out of local taxes.

Ark Encounter has transferred its $48 million property to a non-profit affiliate for $10. In other words it has sold itself to itself for a nominal sum in an attempt at tax-evasion.

More here:

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/artic...82438.html

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