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07-02-2018, 04:46 AM
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It is very much about the strain, as some are just for chilling out, whilst others will really freak you out. I presume for the medicinal kind, (Like you get from legit doctors), it's only the calming kind. I've seen a bunch of research and user testimonies to suggest it does help, although I suppose you should consult your doctor first.

We don't have medicinal weed here in the UK yet, so I'm doing without it for now.

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07-02-2018, 06:37 PM
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I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.

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07-02-2018, 06:54 PM
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(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.

Not being able to cry etc. might be an effect of the new anxiety meds? (and maybe that means that over time you'll get used to it, or the effect will disappear, like fatigue does) I'd also differ with the idea that meds always needing to be increased because of my son's experiences there.

The view of this psychiatrist sounds very odd to me--just because you have legitimate reasons to be anxious doesn't mean that anxiety meds won't help or aren't needed! Doctors prescribe short-term courses of antidepressants to people who've lost loved ones all the time, for example. I hope you have someone better tuned to you as a resource.
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08-02-2018, 03:47 AM
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(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.
Hey Rob,

As the guys suggested, you do start getting used to them, and an increase may be worth doing. I myself am going in shortly to look into that as well, as whilst I more OK than not, I can feel the anxiety slowly coming back, due to my body adjusting to the medication.

For the other stuff: It's completely down to you what treatment you want. Personally, meds work well for me, and the idea is you take it until you feel better and then start coming off it. Sometimes that requires you to keep taking it for a long time with dosages going up or down, othertimes not, it's completely up to your GP to advise on that. Therapy wise, it can be very beneficial, but again is a personal preference really. If you disagree with what one person tells you, get a second opinion.

Re not crying: Sertraline does that, one of the many "side effects". It's a double edged sword as I used to really take exception to feeling/not feeling certain things I've been used to for my entire life, but whilst I'm on this medication, I'm otherwise 99% more functional and can concentrate a lot more, so it helps me in all most every other way. The downside is sometimes certain things have almost 0 effect on me, emotionally, and I find it hard to be "moved" by things that got to me before like music/movies etc. Then again, I've come to conclude that maybe the way I feel about things has been a symptom of my issues this entire time, and that I think that is "normal", IE crying at a film [sometimes a non intentionally sad part] or getting goosebumps when listening to music etc.

It has it's ups and downs, more ups for me, so I'd suggest speaking to your doctor to look into it further.

Hope all is well, and drop me a PM if you want to talk at all. Take it easy Rob!

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08-02-2018, 12:25 PM
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(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not a problem at all mate. Smile

Quote:Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time...

I've consulted 5 psychiatrists over the past 19 years, and my honest opinion is that in my case, and with my diagnoses, psychiatry is a useless, time-wasting, and expensive interventional crutch, rather than any genuine "cure". Again, in my opinion, psychology provides a far more effective clinical intervention, particularly in the short- to mid-term scenario.

Quote:He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons.

And this is the sort of thing I've come up against too. To many psychiatrists think they know it all—because of, or in spite of, referencing their "holy book"—the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). I often felt like saying to these medicos, "It's my fucking body; I know it from the inside out and I'm mature enough to know what works or what doesn't; I'm not a 4-year-old kid; listen to what I'm telling you rather than what your fucking DSM-5 is telling you!"

Quote:Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that.

Put simply, he doesn't. He cant.

Quote:Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me.

I haven't consulted a psychiatrist for around 6 years now, nor a psychologist for around three. We have a new GP in town who's an extremely well-practiced (and qualified) clinician, researcher and multi-specialist facilitator. He comes to us from another nearby small rural townsite, and has firsthand contacts with all sorts of specialists in the locale. I have a lot of faith (uh?) in some GPs who have a more personal interest in your health and overall wellbeing, as well as—critically—being good listeners. Too many Pdocs talk at you.

Quote:Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry...

Crying stimulates the production of endorphins, the body’s natural pain killer and "feel-good" hormones. Researchers have also found that crying activates our parasympathetic nervous system (PNS) which helps the body rest. Interestingly, human beings are the only creatures known to shed emotional tears (although it's believed that elephants and gorillas do also).

For an old bloke, I cry very easily, but it's usually triggered by specific exogenous events—such as an animal in pain or the death of a child etc. My extreme anxiety levels more often trigger unwarranted situational anger, which becomes difficult to control—although bizarrely I'd describe myself as a "pacifist". For example, I can't bear waiting in queues, or being put on hold on the phone, or traffic jams.

Anyway Rob, I hope you can hang in there, and know that people have you in their thoughts—even at a distance. Thumbsup

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10-05-2018, 01:35 PM
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So I might be needing some advice here. My anxiety tends to come and go in 2 year cycles. This latest cycle has been a bit rough, forcing me to call off work far more than I'd like. This is most likely because of a bad experience that I briefly mentioned here--I had a full on panic attack at work which eventually lead to me halfway collapsing and throwing up...in front of a ton of people. It was embarrassing and terrifying at the same time.

Well now I suspect that experience is giving me social anxiety for my workplace--at the slightest hint of anxiety I dread going to work, and this in turn fuels my anxiety. It doesn't help that my job has been extra stressful as of late. In fact I'm pretty fed up with the place right now, but I still feel terrible for calling in and making things harder on my fellow cashiers.

I'm just so scared of that happening again--I WILL not let it happen again.

I'm just not sure what to do. My next appointment with my therapist is in a month, and he's booked til then.

I'm jobhunting, too. I really think I need somewhere different to work at.

It's that, or try to grit through this latest cycle (and hope it really is just a cycle). I'm scared my current job wont keep me at this rate though...and I'm terrified of admitting this to my parents. I haven't told them about all these recent call-offs, and I've even lied about a few. I'm scared of disappointing them. More anxiety fuel, yay.

Any advice?

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10-05-2018, 01:57 PM
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(10-05-2018 01:35 PM)Loom Wrote:  So I might be needing some advice here. My anxiety tends to come and go in 2 year cycles. This latest cycle has been a bit rough, forcing me to call off work far more than I'd like. This is most likely because of a bad experience that I briefly mentioned here--I had a full on panic attack at work which eventually lead to me halfway collapsing and throwing up...in front of a ton of people. It was embarrassing and terrifying at the same time.

Well now I suspect that experience is giving me social anxiety for my workplace--at the slightest hint of anxiety I dread going to work, and this in turn fuels my anxiety. It doesn't help that my job has been extra stressful as of late. In fact I'm pretty fed up with the place right now, but I still feel terrible for calling in and making things harder on my fellow cashiers.

I'm just so scared of that happening again--I WILL not let it happen again.

I'm just not sure what to do. My next appointment with my therapist is in a month, and he's booked til then.

I'm jobhunting, too. I really think I need somewhere different to work at.

It's that, or try to grit through this latest cycle (and hope it really is just a cycle). I'm scared my current job wont keep me at this rate though...and I'm terrified of admitting this to my parents. I haven't told them about all these recent call-offs, and I've even lied about a few. I'm scared of disappointing them. More anxiety fuel, yay.

Any advice?

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Is it possible to premedicate on bad days with something like Pepto Bismol and a small change in your eating strategy so that you won't be throwing up? (I've had periods when I've had that happen to me because of stress--god, it sucks--and I cut out a lot of the acidic foods I was eating because they seemed to make me even more queasy)

Is it possible for you to schedule something fun and relaxing for after work, so that you can look forward to it?

A different job sounds like a great idea, and I hope you find one soon.

I'd also tell your parents, if you have a good relationship with them. They've been with you through your past cycles, and maybe they have figured out some ways to help. It's something I always ask my son to do--tell me before the problem's gone from medium to enormous.

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11-05-2018, 04:22 AM
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(10-05-2018 01:35 PM)Loom Wrote:  So I might be needing some advice here. My anxiety tends to come and go in 2 year cycles. This latest cycle has been a bit rough, forcing me to call off work far more than I'd like. This is most likely because of a bad experience that I briefly mentioned here--I had a full on panic attack at work which eventually lead to me halfway collapsing and throwing up...in front of a ton of people. It was embarrassing and terrifying at the same time.

Well now I suspect that experience is giving me social anxiety for my workplace--at the slightest hint of anxiety I dread going to work, and this in turn fuels my anxiety. It doesn't help that my job has been extra stressful as of late. In fact I'm pretty fed up with the place right now, but I still feel terrible for calling in and making things harder on my fellow cashiers.

I'm just so scared of that happening again--I WILL not let it happen again.

I'm just not sure what to do. My next appointment with my therapist is in a month, and he's booked til then.

I'm jobhunting, too. I really think I need somewhere different to work at.

It's that, or try to grit through this latest cycle (and hope it really is just a cycle). I'm scared my current job wont keep me at this rate though...and I'm terrified of admitting this to my parents. I haven't told them about all these recent call-offs, and I've even lied about a few. I'm scared of disappointing them. More anxiety fuel, yay.

Any advice?

Hey Loom, do you take any medication to help with your anxiety? I personally do, and it helps me a lot. Can you feel the anxiety coming on, and do you have any "warning signs" ? For example, I can feel myself getting worked up a bit, and my employer is very cool about it, so should I need to, I can take 5 mins to walk it off/de-stress a little bit. Also, try to find areas/time when you can chill a little bit. I used to read a whole lot, although find it hard to do so now. These days I'll stick my headphones on and just relax during my lunch hour, or even any time I start to feel a bit stressed out.

Re the work: which country do you like in Loom? In the UK it's outright illegal to let somebody go because of a known illness. I believe you are entitled to sick pay up to a certain time, when they can then stop paying you, but they can't fire you for it. Maybe it's worth speaking to your employer frankly about you issues, along with your colleagues, which might let them know how you're feeling whilst also breaking the "tension" of you thinking that you're letting them down.

Just try and self assess your mood, and if you can plough through. Sometimes I find it's more the thought of being somewhere than actually physically being there, which is the worst thing. For me sometimes I just need to actually sleep it off, and I feel better.

The short story is, try to relax where possible, (which I get is easier said than done), but try and recognise the signs/take time to chill if you need it, and then get back out there. Anxiety can be a bit of a vicious cycle of over thinking something, and then also decided not to do it, when sometimes if you do said thing you're worrying about, you see it's not too bad and use as a reference for next time.

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11-05-2018, 10:35 AM
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(10-05-2018 01:57 PM)julep Wrote:  
(10-05-2018 01:35 PM)Loom Wrote:  So I might be needing some advice here. My anxiety tends to come and go in 2 year cycles. This latest cycle has been a bit rough, forcing me to call off work far more than I'd like. This is most likely because of a bad experience that I briefly mentioned here--I had a full on panic attack at work which eventually lead to me halfway collapsing and throwing up...in front of a ton of people. It was embarrassing and terrifying at the same time.

Well now I suspect that experience is giving me social anxiety for my workplace--at the slightest hint of anxiety I dread going to work, and this in turn fuels my anxiety. It doesn't help that my job has been extra stressful as of late. In fact I'm pretty fed up with the place right now, but I still feel terrible for calling in and making things harder on my fellow cashiers.

I'm just so scared of that happening again--I WILL not let it happen again.

I'm just not sure what to do. My next appointment with my therapist is in a month, and he's booked til then.

I'm jobhunting, too. I really think I need somewhere different to work at.

It's that, or try to grit through this latest cycle (and hope it really is just a cycle). I'm scared my current job wont keep me at this rate though...and I'm terrified of admitting this to my parents. I haven't told them about all these recent call-offs, and I've even lied about a few. I'm scared of disappointing them. More anxiety fuel, yay.

Any advice?

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Is it possible to premedicate on bad days with something like Pepto Bismol and a small change in your eating strategy so that you won't be throwing up? (I've had periods when I've had that happen to me because of stress--god, it sucks--and I cut out a lot of the acidic foods I was eating because they seemed to make me even more queasy)

Is it possible for you to schedule something fun and relaxing for after work, so that you can look forward to it?

A different job sounds like a great idea, and I hope you find one soon.

I'd also tell your parents, if you have a good relationship with them. They've been with you through your past cycles, and maybe they have figured out some ways to help. It's something I always ask my son to do--tell me before the problem's gone from medium to enormous.

The throwing up thing I'm fairly certain is purely panic related--though it's a pretty recent phenomenon. I'm not sure how well medications could help because it's very intense and I tend to throw up the medication (if I take it too late). I keep mints on me now, though, which seem to help.

As for my parents, they really only took my anxiety seriously in recent years. Before, they basically brushed it off, told me to "calm down," that I wasn't "trying hard enough" to stop it, or assumed it was attention seeking. I'm still a bit hesitant to tell them but I'll try to work up the courage.

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11-05-2018, 10:50 AM
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(11-05-2018 04:22 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(10-05-2018 01:35 PM)Loom Wrote:  So I might be needing some advice here. My anxiety tends to come and go in 2 year cycles. This latest cycle has been a bit rough, forcing me to call off work far more than I'd like. This is most likely because of a bad experience that I briefly mentioned here--I had a full on panic attack at work which eventually lead to me halfway collapsing and throwing up...in front of a ton of people. It was embarrassing and terrifying at the same time.

Well now I suspect that experience is giving me social anxiety for my workplace--at the slightest hint of anxiety I dread going to work, and this in turn fuels my anxiety. It doesn't help that my job has been extra stressful as of late. In fact I'm pretty fed up with the place right now, but I still feel terrible for calling in and making things harder on my fellow cashiers.

I'm just so scared of that happening again--I WILL not let it happen again.

I'm just not sure what to do. My next appointment with my therapist is in a month, and he's booked til then.

I'm jobhunting, too. I really think I need somewhere different to work at.

It's that, or try to grit through this latest cycle (and hope it really is just a cycle). I'm scared my current job wont keep me at this rate though...and I'm terrified of admitting this to my parents. I haven't told them about all these recent call-offs, and I've even lied about a few. I'm scared of disappointing them. More anxiety fuel, yay.

Any advice?

Hey Loom, do you take any medication to help with your anxiety? I personally do, and it helps me a lot. Can you feel the anxiety coming on, and do you have any "warning signs" ? For example, I can feel myself getting worked up a bit, and my employer is very cool about it, so should I need to, I can take 5 mins to walk it off/de-stress a little bit. Also, try to find areas/time when you can chill a little bit. I used to read a whole lot, although find it hard to do so now. These days I'll stick my headphones on and just relax during my lunch hour, or even any time I start to feel a bit stressed out.

Re the work: which country do you like in Loom? In the UK it's outright illegal to let somebody go because of a known illness. I believe you are entitled to sick pay up to a certain time, when they can then stop paying you, but they can't fire you for it. Maybe it's worth speaking to your employer frankly about you issues, along with your colleagues, which might let them know how you're feeling whilst also breaking the "tension" of you thinking that you're letting them down.

Just try and self assess your mood, and if you can plough through. Sometimes I find it's more the thought of being somewhere than actually physically being there, which is the worst thing. For me sometimes I just need to actually sleep it off, and I feel better.

The short story is, try to relax where possible, (which I get is easier said than done), but try and recognise the signs/take time to chill if you need it, and then get back out there. Anxiety can be a bit of a vicious cycle of over thinking something, and then also decided not to do it, when sometimes if you do said thing you're worrying about, you see it's not too bad and use as a reference for next time.

I live in the US. I'm pretty sure they can fire me for any reason.

There's also little opportunity to de-stress--I work in the garden center and it's currently skitzo busy out there, no breaks between customers, other customers are frequently coming up behind you while you are ringing someone out and asking you questions, there aren't enough people staffed so there's no help with loading or garden questions, and I rarely get my breaks, either because they "forget" about me or we simply don't have enough cashiers staffed. It's rediculous. You stand out there for 4-6 hours with hardly enough time to sip your water, constantly talking with all the robotic spiels we have to go through with each customer. Doesn't matter if you're hungry, need to use the bathroom, or just need a flat out break--you probably won't get one a damned if you ask about it. Doesn't help I just worked 12 days in a row...

So yeah...jobhunting...

And I do take meds, though I'm thinking about getting the dose upped--my paychiatrist calls my current dosage "barely therapeutic"."

I also have Xanax as needed, but that stuff turns me into a zombie. I'm a bit of a lightweight I guess, but even the lowest dose makes me scared of driving.

I think my best option right now is finding a differeng job. I want to move up or learn new things. In my current job that means even more stress since management is the only way up. So I'm looking into hospital jobs where my EMT training might apply, like a patient transporter. Undoubtably there are different stresses to be had there, but I think I can handle it much better, especially knowing I'm helping someone. Right now, I don't feel worth much.

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