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07-02-2018, 04:46 AM
RE: The Depression/Anxiety Thread
It is very much about the strain, as some are just for chilling out, whilst others will really freak you out. I presume for the medicinal kind, (Like you get from legit doctors), it's only the calming kind. I've seen a bunch of research and user testimonies to suggest it does help, although I suppose you should consult your doctor first.

We don't have medicinal weed here in the UK yet, so I'm doing without it for now.

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07-02-2018, 06:37 PM
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I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.

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07-02-2018, 06:54 PM
RE: The Depression/Anxiety Thread
(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.

Not being able to cry etc. might be an effect of the new anxiety meds? (and maybe that means that over time you'll get used to it, or the effect will disappear, like fatigue does) I'd also differ with the idea that meds always needing to be increased because of my son's experiences there.

The view of this psychiatrist sounds very odd to me--just because you have legitimate reasons to be anxious doesn't mean that anxiety meds won't help or aren't needed! Doctors prescribe short-term courses of antidepressants to people who've lost loved ones all the time, for example. I hope you have someone better tuned to you as a resource.
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08-02-2018, 03:47 AM
RE: The Depression/Anxiety Thread
(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time. But I have only been taking these for 4.5 weeks...

He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons. Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that. Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me. So yea... Quick to judge that guy... At least I got what I came there for.

Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry. Like physically, it't just doesn't happen. It's weird. Not unwelcome of course. I don't think that crying is something that helps in any way. But it was a way to vent these emotions so now I miss a vent. I am not actually the type that cries much either btw. But during the past few months, when the anxiety reached complete boiling and explosion point, I started breaking down a lot. Several days a week on top of at least one, but usually more, anxiety attacks per day. Now it is just in me and has no where to go. It is a bit duller than it used to but yea... dunno. Dunno what to do about it.
Hey Rob,

As the guys suggested, you do start getting used to them, and an increase may be worth doing. I myself am going in shortly to look into that as well, as whilst I more OK than not, I can feel the anxiety slowly coming back, due to my body adjusting to the medication.

For the other stuff: It's completely down to you what treatment you want. Personally, meds work well for me, and the idea is you take it until you feel better and then start coming off it. Sometimes that requires you to keep taking it for a long time with dosages going up or down, othertimes not, it's completely up to your GP to advise on that. Therapy wise, it can be very beneficial, but again is a personal preference really. If you disagree with what one person tells you, get a second opinion.

Re not crying: Sertraline does that, one of the many "side effects". It's a double edged sword as I used to really take exception to feeling/not feeling certain things I've been used to for my entire life, but whilst I'm on this medication, I'm otherwise 99% more functional and can concentrate a lot more, so it helps me in all most every other way. The downside is sometimes certain things have almost 0 effect on me, emotionally, and I find it hard to be "moved" by things that got to me before like music/movies etc. Then again, I've come to conclude that maybe the way I feel about things has been a symptom of my issues this entire time, and that I think that is "normal", IE crying at a film [sometimes a non intentionally sad part] or getting goosebumps when listening to music etc.

It has it's ups and downs, more ups for me, so I'd suggest speaking to your doctor to look into it further.

Hope all is well, and drop me a PM if you want to talk at all. Take it easy Rob!

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08-02-2018, 12:25 PM
RE: The Depression/Anxiety Thread
(07-02-2018 06:37 PM)Leerob Wrote:  I have some venting to do about my anxiety and stuff... I hope it's ok...

Not a problem at all mate. Smile

Quote:Not only did the psychiatrist that I saw on Monday disagree with me taking these meds, also they aren't working so well anymore. Already. I don't know. The psychiatrist explained that our brains are very good at adjusting to these types of medication so doses always need to be increased over time...

I've consulted 5 psychiatrists over the past 19 years, and my honest opinion is that in my case, and with my diagnoses, psychiatry is a useless, time-wasting, and expensive interventional crutch, rather than any genuine "cure". Again, in my opinion, psychology provides a far more effective clinical intervention, particularly in the short- to mid-term scenario.

Quote:He, btw, disagrees with me taking these because in his opinion my anxiety has good reasons.

And this is the sort of thing I've come up against too. To many psychiatrists think they know it all—because of, or in spite of, referencing their "holy book"—the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). I often felt like saying to these medicos, "It's my fucking body; I know it from the inside out and I'm mature enough to know what works or what doesn't; I'm not a 4-year-old kid; listen to what I'm telling you rather than what your fucking DSM-5 is telling you!"

Quote:Well guy talks to me for 45 minutes and thinks he knows the full extend of my fucking anxiety when I am there for a diagnose for my medical transition... Well fuck that.

Put simply, he doesn't. He cant.

Quote:Dude, I have two therapists who both encouraged me to speak to my GP to see if there is a medication that can help me. And my GP was fine prescribing it to me.

I haven't consulted a psychiatrist for around 6 years now, nor a psychologist for around three. We have a new GP in town who's an extremely well-practiced (and qualified) clinician, researcher and multi-specialist facilitator. He comes to us from another nearby small rural townsite, and has firsthand contacts with all sorts of specialists in the locale. I have a lot of faith (uh?) in some GPs who have a more personal interest in your health and overall wellbeing, as well as—critically—being good listeners. Too many Pdocs talk at you.

Quote:Anyway, my anxiety is up and down these days. I found that no matter how sad or depressed I get, I cannot cry...

Crying stimulates the production of endorphins, the body’s natural pain killer and "feel-good" hormones. Researchers have also found that crying activates our parasympathetic nervous system (PNS) which helps the body rest. Interestingly, human beings are the only creatures known to shed emotional tears (although it's believed that elephants and gorillas do also).

For an old bloke, I cry very easily, but it's usually triggered by specific exogenous events—such as an animal in pain or the death of a child etc. My extreme anxiety levels more often trigger unwarranted situational anger, which becomes difficult to control—although bizarrely I'd describe myself as a "pacifist". For example, I can't bear waiting in queues, or being put on hold on the phone, or traffic jams.

Anyway Rob, I hope you can hang in there, and know that people have you in their thoughts—even at a distance. Thumbsup

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