The Evisceration of the Exodus
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04-08-2015, 06:43 AM
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
(03-08-2015 01:41 PM)Alla Wrote:  goodwithoutgod doesn't know what "one God" means. that is why he doesn't know how Jesus can be called God when Father is God.
goodwithoutgod doesn't know what "one God" symbolize in the language of the Prophets.

Q: can he make correct conclusions about the Bible?
A: yes, he can. but how will he know this?

this is the question!!

Can *you* make correct conclusions about anything?
How will *you* know?

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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04-08-2015, 10:35 AM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2015 10:43 AM by Mr. Boston.)
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
This mythology really is quite interesting. Take the Exodus story, the ridiculousness of which has already been amply described in this thread, but boiled down: The Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, which we can only infer was part of God's plan to begin with or else how could it have happened? To get them free God unleashes 10 plagues which by all practical means should have completely decimated Egypt for all time, then once freed he allows the Hebrews to drift aimlessly through a dessert roughly the size of West Virginia for 40 years without any signs or directions about which way they should go; though he does give them 10 rules to live by, the first 40% of which are about what their attitude towards him ought to be.

Compound this with the horrific cruelty of the Flood story, Job, Lot, and the fates of most of the enemies of the Israelites and it's easy to see that if this character existed he'd essentially be nothing more than a bratty 4-year-old playing army men in a sandbox. Then you have to ask why would ANY race/culture worship such a creature and create such a pitiful myth of false persecution and then call themselves "chosen" people?
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04-08-2015, 11:10 AM
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
(04-08-2015 10:35 AM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  This mythology really is quite interesting. Take the Exodus story, the ridiculousness of which has already been amply described in this thread, but boiled down: The Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, which we can only infer was part of God's plan to begin with or else how could it have happened? To get them free God unleashes 10 plagues which by all practical means should have completely decimated Egypt for all time, then once freed he allows the Hebrews to drift aimlessly through a dessert roughly the size of West Virginia for 40 years without any signs or directions about which way they should go; though he does give them 10 rules to live by, the first 40% of which are about what their attitude towards him ought to be.

Compound this with the horrific cruelty of the Flood story, Job, Lot, and the fates of most of the enemies of the Israelites and it's easy to see that if this character existed he'd essentially be nothing more than a bratty 4-year-old playing army men in a sandbox. Then you have to ask why would ANY race/culture worship such a creature and create such a pitiful myth of false persecution and then call themselves "chosen" people?

Thumbsup That about sums it up Yes

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04-08-2015, 02:24 PM
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05-08-2015, 06:08 AM
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
(04-08-2015 10:35 AM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  Compound this with the horrific cruelty of the Flood story, Job, Lot, and the fates of most of the enemies of the Israelites and it's easy to see that if this character existed he'd essentially be nothing more than a bratty 4-year-old playing army men in a sandbox. Then you have to ask why would ANY race/culture worship such a creature and create such a pitiful myth of false persecution and then call themselves "chosen" people?

Because if they don't say that, shit gets worse. Gratitude and adoration aren't the only reason to genuflect to someone...
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05-08-2015, 07:46 AM
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I never understood why the conversation about Exodus doesn't begin and end with the fact that the authors of Exodus were clearly unaware that Egypt controlled Canaan throughout the time period in which the events would've had to have happened. It'd be like saying, "So then, the population of Atlanta fled from the wrath of President Obama, and defeated the 4th Armored Division at the Olympia River and took shelter in the land of Alaska, which God had given unto them."

That the migration makes no physical sense, left zero evidence where a glut should exist, and each of the Plagues would have been an ecological disaster sufficient to topple Egypt entirely as a military force projector, should be secondary or tertiary considerations next to that one glaring problem.

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05-08-2015, 12:36 PM
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(05-08-2015 07:46 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  I never understood why the conversation about Exodus doesn't begin and end with the fact that the authors of Exodus were clearly unaware that Egypt controlled Canaan throughout the time period in which the events would've had to have happened. It'd be like saying, "So then, the population of Atlanta fled from the wrath of President Obama, and defeated the 4th Armored Division at the Olympia River and took shelter in the land of Alaska, which God had given unto them."

That the migration makes no physical sense, left zero evidence where a glut should exist, and each of the Plagues would have been an ecological disaster sufficient to topple Egypt entirely as a military force projector, should be secondary or tertiary considerations next to that one glaring problem.

True, there are many angles to take to dismantle the exodus story. I chose the logistical/archaeological and logic angle this time. it is like ripping apart the global flood myth, so many different ways to do it. Big Grin

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05-08-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
(04-08-2015 10:35 AM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  This mythology really is quite interesting. Take the Exodus story, the ridiculousness of which has already been amply described in this thread, but boiled down: The Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, which we can only infer was part of God's plan to begin with or else how could it have happened? To get them free God unleashes 10 plagues which by all practical means should have completely decimated Egypt for all time, then once freed he allows the Hebrews to drift aimlessly through a dessert roughly the size of West Virginia for 40 years without any signs or directions about which way they should go; though he does give them 10 rules to live by, the first 40% of which are about what their attitude towards him ought to be.

Compound this with the horrific cruelty of the Flood story, Job, Lot, and the fates of most of the enemies of the Israelites and it's easy to see that if this character existed he'd essentially be nothing more than a bratty 4-year-old playing army men in a sandbox. Then you have to ask why would ANY race/culture worship such a creature and create such a pitiful myth of false persecution and then call themselves "chosen" people?

That's an easy one to answer. To give the priests a job.
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05-08-2015, 09:45 PM
RE: The Evisceration of the Exodus
(05-08-2015 09:33 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(04-08-2015 10:35 AM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  This mythology really is quite interesting. Take the Exodus story, the ridiculousness of which has already been amply described in this thread, but boiled down: The Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, which we can only infer was part of God's plan to begin with or else how could it have happened? To get them free God unleashes 10 plagues which by all practical means should have completely decimated Egypt for all time, then once freed he allows the Hebrews to drift aimlessly through a dessert roughly the size of West Virginia for 40 years without any signs or directions about which way they should go; though he does give them 10 rules to live by, the first 40% of which are about what their attitude towards him ought to be.

Compound this with the horrific cruelty of the Flood story, Job, Lot, and the fates of most of the enemies of the Israelites and it's easy to see that if this character existed he'd essentially be nothing more than a bratty 4-year-old playing army men in a sandbox. Then you have to ask why would ANY race/culture worship such a creature and create such a pitiful myth of false persecution and then call themselves "chosen" people?

That's an easy one to answer. To give the priests a job.

That does about sum it up. The OT is pretty much the story of the warring priestly factions getting and losing power, and trying to get it back.

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