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27-06-2011, 01:18 PM
The Existence Of Chance
I've been thinking a bit about the concept of chance and wether it actually exists or not, or if it's just a paradox.

Here's an extremely easy example: Bob throws the dice, his chances to throw a 6 are 1/6. After throwing about 100000 times Bob's able to see that he threw a 6 about 16520 times. So far we've acknowledged that after a high number of tries the results are starting to get close to the chance we've calculated.
However if we measure the force Bob uses, the speed and the rotation direction of the dice, combined with the friction of the environment, we could quite exactly predict what number he would throw. When something happened, due to the circumstances there was 100% chance it would happen the way it did, since every single aspect of the circumstances caused it to be so.
Now where am I getting with this? If everything happens because of it's circumstances, then there's no possibility of the existence of a chance different than 100%.

Another example: If you use a graph to calculate the amount of chance that you will meet someone who's exactly 1.80 m, you'll end up with 0 since there's an endless amount of points between 1.79 m and 1.81 m. However there has been a moment where a person who was about 1.79 m who grew to 1.81 m was exactly 1.80 m tall since he had to pass it while growing, which means that the chances of encountering someone who's exactly 1.80 m tall isn't 0 since there is a possibility in real life.

We can pretty much prove that the concept of chance isn't real since as far as we know everything happens because of it's circumstances, however experiments show us the opposite.

My question about this is simple, am I wrong somewhere? And what is your vision on this matter?

I'd figure i'd post it in science since I a bring up both math and physics, even though it's a bit philosophic as well. (I hope everyone understands what I mean, since I find it rather hard to explain this scientific stuff in English)
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The Existence Of Chance - Tim_Kiebooms - 27-06-2011 01:18 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Filox - 27-06-2011, 01:34 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Tim_Kiebooms - 27-06-2011, 01:56 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - daemonowner - 27-06-2011, 02:04 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Tim_Kiebooms - 27-06-2011, 03:52 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - nsguy1350 - 28-01-2013, 08:17 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Kreuzfel - 06-03-2013, 05:11 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - BryanS - 06-03-2013, 11:11 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Kreuzfel - 07-03-2013, 05:23 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - mrbuddy4413 - 07-03-2013, 06:28 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Chas - 07-03-2013, 11:04 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - mrbuddy4413 - 08-03-2013, 12:44 PM
RE: The Existence Of Chance - Chas - 08-03-2013, 04:24 PM
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