The Great Islamic Conspiracy
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26-01-2016, 11:46 PM
RE: The Great Islamic Conspiracy
(26-01-2016 06:26 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
Quote:If a WBC guy was assaulted and used the assault to claim that atheists were a real and present danger to America, would you be impressed and think that atheists were evil? That's why.

What's atheism got to do with homophobia?
The difference between the gays and WBC and Muslims and anti-islamists is that the gays put on counter protests and walk down the street playing an oboe, whereas Muslims get violent and shoot/blow-up/punch a bunch of people.

Atheism doesn't teach hate and violence, it doesn't teach anything because it's not a religion. Islam on the other hand is and does teach hate and violence.
You asked why Tommy's alleged evidence would be given less weight and drew an analogy between Islam and being gay, saying that you don't need to beat people up to make your point. I instead drew an analogy between Islam and being atheist, saying that one anti-atheist prick making a video of himself being assaulted by an atheist does not count as evidence that all atheists are bad.

There are multiple sects of Islam, it is not monolithic, and many sects do not practice the violence called for in their scriptures, in the same way that most sects of Christianity don't practice violence, even though their holy book is full of it.

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Quote:I don't dispute that Islam in general is a revolting philosophy, what I dislike is hysterical doomsday "the Muslims are coming" bullshit.

I'm not saying its doomsday they're coming to get us. I think it's good that some of them are immigrating to the US and EU, diversification is good. BUT I am saying that their religion is plague ridden filth and has no place in a modern society.

It's ok, IMO, for them to immigrate to the UK or France or where ever but they need to respect the laws and customs of those host countries and that includes free speech against their plague religion. If not, fuck off to ISIS land and enjoy your shiria law you filthy cuntbags. That's basically a summation of my thoughts on the matter.

I absolutely think that free speech against Islam or whatever other nutbag religion is a good thing, and that if they do emigrate then yes, like any other immigrant they must follow the law of their host country, but I think that divisive messages casting Muslims as "the evil other" are only going to widen the gulf. They're mostly just normal people. Terrorist organizations profit by the misunderstandings - they *want* us to not get on with our Muslim neighbours, they *want* them to think that everyone hates them, it provides them with new cannon fodder.

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27-01-2016, 12:56 AM
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Quote:You asked why Tommy's alleged evidence would be given less weight and drew an analogy between Islam and being gay, saying that you don't need to beat people up to make your point. I instead drew an analogy between Islam and being atheist, saying that one anti-atheist prick making a video of himself being assaulted by an atheist does not count as evidence that all atheists are bad.

And as I said, the difference between being gay, or being atheist for that matter, and being Islam is that being gay or being atheist neither of those things teach hate and violence. Islam does.

And show me this video you speak of. Show me a video of an atheist attacking a guy who was just walking/driving down the street for being an outspoken anti-atheist.

Islam teaches hate and violence. Atheism doesn't (because it doesn't teach anything).

Quote:There are multiple sects of Islam, it is not monolithic, and many sects do not practice the violence called for in their scriptures, in the same way that most sects of Christianity don't practice violence, even though their holy book is full of it.

And do we let in just these sects? No.
The baseline of Islam is violence. Their prophet had sex with little girls. Christians 'prophet' was a 1st century hippy. Christianity has had time to grow and has grown alongside modern ideals such as freedom of speech and so the church has softened on things like stoning people for adultery. Islam hasn't had the same level of "softening" as Christianity. And as I said, Islam at its core anyway is violence.

Quote:I think that divisive messages casting Muslims as "the evil other" are only going to widen the gulf.

The widen the gap themselves by punching people in the face.

Quote:They're mostly just normal people.

And Islam 'corrupts' them because it is a plague religion.

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27-01-2016, 02:03 AM
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It may be not strictly on topic but I would say that accusations of racism are too quick to happen in regards to Islam. Here is interesting article about Köln which shows how quickly word racism creep into what otherwise may have been discussion worth hearing.

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27-01-2016, 04:54 PM (This post was last modified: 27-01-2016 05:11 PM by fstratzero.)
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Honestly at this point it looks like and smells like Muslim colonization of the west.

If you will an Islamic manifest destiny.

You guys will have your own kuffar holocaust.

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27-01-2016, 08:43 PM
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I've been following this thread only intermittently, and I'm a little confused. Is the Great Islamic Conspiracy related to the International Jewish Conspiracy?
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28-01-2016, 02:28 AM
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(27-01-2016 08:43 PM)jabeady Wrote:  I've been following this thread only intermittently, and I'm a little confused. Is the Great Islamic Conspiracy related to the International Jewish Conspiracy?

After the International Jewish Conspiracy was halted by the Hero Adolf, the Muslims picked up the quest Dodgy Seems to be where this thread is heading.

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28-01-2016, 02:44 AM
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(27-01-2016 04:54 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  Honestly at this point it looks like and smells like Muslim colonization of the west.

If you will an Islamic manifest destiny.

You guys will have your own kuffar holocaust.

As opposed to the Christian colonization of the west?

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28-01-2016, 02:51 AM
RE: The Great Islamic Conspiracy
(26-01-2016 11:46 PM)morondog Wrote:  I absolutely think that free speech against Islam or whatever other nutbag religion is a good thing, and that if they do emigrate then yes, like any other immigrant they must follow the law of their host country, but I think that divisive messages casting Muslims as "the evil other" are only going to widen the gulf. They're mostly just normal people. Terrorist organizations profit by the misunderstandings - they *want* us to not get on with our Muslim neighbours, they *want* them to think that everyone hates them, it provides them with new cannon fodder.


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Be inclusive, secularize them, and show them just how much better things are on this side of the fence. Because things are better over here, and the sooner they understand why that is, the easier a time we'll all have going forward.

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28-01-2016, 03:00 AM
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(27-01-2016 04:54 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  Honestly at this point it looks like and smells like Muslim colonization of the west.

If you will an Islamic manifest destiny.

You guys will have your own kuffar holocaust.



Perhaps but they are escaping wars begun by the west. Also hired as cheap labor by European corporations.

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28-01-2016, 02:14 PM
RE: The Great Islamic Conspiracy
(28-01-2016 03:00 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-01-2016 04:54 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  Honestly at this point it looks like and smells like Muslim colonization of the west.

If you will an Islamic manifest destiny.

You guys will have your own kuffar holocaust.



Perhaps but they are escaping wars begun by the west. Also hired as cheap labor by European corporations.

I can see it now. Race war boils over as Muslim and Latino gangs fight it out for the right to stand around in Wal-Mart parking lots.
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