The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
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20-12-2016, 05:42 AM
RE: The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
(11-12-2016 04:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 04:27 PM)DLJ Wrote:  I'd appreciate feedback on any part of this but in particular in relation to 'desires' ... I can't think of a way to show them on the diagram as anything other than floating text but this doesn't anchor them as influencers in a way that is aesthetically pleasing.

Too many different dimensions for me to visualize and grok from one diagram. I'd probably split 'em up into multiple diagrams of the same basic flavor and stack 'em. Or maybe different overlays. Maybe cumulative overlays.

Terrible graphics as well. Hard for my eyes to read so did not bother.

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20-12-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
(20-12-2016 05:42 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 04:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Too many different dimensions for me to visualize and grok from one diagram. I'd probably split 'em up into multiple diagrams of the same basic flavor and stack 'em. Or maybe different overlays. Maybe cumulative overlays.

Terrible graphics as well. Hard for my eyes to read so did not bother.

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20-12-2016, 09:54 AM
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(20-12-2016 09:11 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(20-12-2016 05:42 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  Terrible graphics as well. Hard for my eyes to read so did not bother.

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Laugh out load Shame poor DLJ worked so hard on it.

My appologies to DLJ but if you wish to impart things to other people simple graphics with nice contrast works every time.

There are some horrible "crimes" committed by making stuff far more arty than it needs to be. Colour can add to understanding, ever add to presentation, but only if the contrast allows. I hate sites with a black background to dark gray text and purple hypertext links - looks arty but I just go somewhere that my eyes are not strained and I can read stuff without a headache.

We are not all young(ish) with 20:20 vision and good contrast vision!

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20-12-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
(20-12-2016 09:54 AM)Gloucester Wrote:  ...
if you wish to impart things to other people simple graphics with nice contrast works every time.
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Better?

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Gloucester and double Gloucester ... geddit? OK nvm.

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26-12-2016, 06:49 AM
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Apologies for taking so long (for the one of you who might be interested).

I've been piecing it all together in note form and I'm at 1,500 words Ohmy

But along the way ... I think ... maybe ... that I've worked out why we sleep.

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01-01-2017, 03:40 PM
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The problem with morality is that it seems in many cases to be so fragile. The holocaust in Germany for example. Jim Crow law in the South. Ibn Tamayyah's fatwas in the Islamic world that are used by movements like ISIS.

Experiments like Stanley Milgram's Obedience to authority, and Philip Zimbardo's Prison Experiments demonstrate that what would seem to be basic morality can be easily overwhelmed, many seem to have moral blind spots, easily manipulated.
Gang members easily lose basic morality to peer pressure.

How does these sort of things fit in with the diagrams?

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01-01-2017, 10:58 PM
RE: The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
(01-01-2017 03:40 PM)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:  The problem with morality is that it seems in many cases to be so fragile. The holocaust in Germany for example. Jim Crow law in the South. Ibn Tamayyah's fatwas in the Islamic world that are used by movements like ISIS.

Experiments like Stanley Milgram's Obedience to authority, and Philip Zimbardo's Prison Experiments demonstrate that what would seem to be basic morality can be easily overwhelmed, many seem to have moral blind spots, easily manipulated.
Gang members easily lose basic morality to peer pressure.

How does these sort of things fit in with the diagrams?
The notion I like about these theories and ideas is it separates the concepts and the feelings into categories in a way to not view them as basic morality.

You could say something like basic emotions too or separate grief, sadness, anger, etc close emotions.

Well you can say gang members lose basic morality easily but they really are strongly relying and motivated by In-grouping or perhaps also authority from their peer/leader or the repremands of others. Yeah that took over a universal all people fairness and harm evaluation. That's the struggle of values humans share.

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02-01-2017, 11:56 AM
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So I've spent the last few days writing a narrative for the diagrams.

It's turned into quite an epic. And I mean epic! Does anyone want to read it?

If so, I'll post it, but I'll predict some responses first:

earmuffs: "tl;dr"
morondog: WTF!
Gloucester: "The text is still too small"
Chas: Dodgy
HoC: "Gwynies is my baseline"
Jennybee: "See? I knew it. Yoga".
Kim: "Where's my lasagna?"

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02-01-2017, 12:23 PM
RE: The Great Morality Diagrammatic Diatribe
(02-01-2017 11:56 AM)DLJ Wrote:  So I've spent the last few days writing a narrative for the diagrams.

It's turned into quite an epic. And I mean epic! Does anyone want to read it?

If so, I'll post it, but I'll predict some responses first:

earmuffs: "tl;dr"
morondog: WTF!
Gloucester: "The text is still too small"
Chas: Dodgy
HoC: "Gwynies is my baseline"
Jennybee: "See? I knew it. Yoga".
Kim: "Where's my lasagna?"

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