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25-07-2013, 11:00 PM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 10:48 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  You say it like it's a bad thing.
Gayness is not a political ideology...

In this thread I am not making any judgment on whether the homosexual agenda is a good or bad thing. I am merely stating it is apparent(to me) that it exists.
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25-07-2013, 11:05 PM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2013 11:09 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 07:55 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The homosexual agenda is not human rights. Human rights are rights we have simply by virtue of being human. The homosexual agenda is an attempt to alter the thinking of society. It is an attempt to lead the sheep.

Now you can argue people like Robertson are evil because of their views on homosexuality.....but you can't say he is mindless sheep....like the deniers of the homosexual agenda apparently are.

What a idiot troll, BlowJob is. He actually talks about Robertson as if he wasn't one of the most all-time ignorant people, ever, anywhere.

Gay people want HUMAN rights .. like the right to marry. Just like BlowJob has. Just like Robertson wants to DENY to gay people. It IS about human rights. If that's an "agenda" to get the SAME rights everyone else has, then so fucking what ?

Let me remind you of a few of the things Robertson said :

''Planned Parenthood is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism and everything that the Bible condemns."

"Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court."

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." Robertson re "gay days" at Disneyworld

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

"God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.''

"Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up" terrorist Robertson, on nuking the State Department

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." Robertson, calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez

"It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other." Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that killed tens of thousands of people.

"Like it or not, males have a tendency to wander a little bit. What you want to do is make a home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander."

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

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25-07-2013, 11:13 PM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
Yes I know and I would agree that there are people/organizations with an agenda to promote equal rights via changing opinion of society to more favorably look upon gay people.
There are people/organizations who do the same for black people or/and other minority groups.

The key being that the agenda is equal rights, but the method of achieving this is to sway public opinion.

Also, conservative/liberbal/other political ideology agenda's are different to minority equal right agendas.

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25-07-2013, 11:17 PM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 11:05 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 07:55 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The homosexual agenda is not human rights. Human rights are rights we have simply by virtue of being human. The homosexual agenda is an attempt to alter the thinking of society. It is an attempt to lead the sheep.

Now you can argue people like Robertson are evil because of their views on homosexuality.....but you can't say he is mindless sheep....like the deniers of the homosexual agenda apparently are.

What a idiot troll, BlowJob is. He actually talks about Robertson as if he wasn't one of the most all-time ignorant people, ever, anywhere.

Gay people want HUMAN rights .. like the right to marry. Just like BlowJob has. Just like Robertson wants to DENY to gay people. It IS about human rights. If that's an "agenda" to get the SAME rights everyone else has, then so fucking what ?

Let me remind you of a few of the things Robertson said :

''Planned Parenthood is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism and everything that the Bible condemns."

"Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court."

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." Robertson re "gay days" at Disneyworld

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

"God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.''

"Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up" terrorist Robertson, on nuking the State Department

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." Robertson, calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez

"It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other." Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that killed tens of thousands of people.

"Like it or not, males have a tendency to wander a little bit. What you want to do is make a home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander."

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

Yup. BlowJob's kinda guy.

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25-07-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 11:13 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Yes I know and I would agree that there are people/organizations with an agenda to promote equal rights via changing opinion of society to more favorably look upon gay people.
There are people/organizations who do the same for black people or/and other minority groups.

The key being that the agenda is equal rights, but the method of achieving this is to sway public opinion.

Also, conservative/liberbal/other political ideology agenda's are different to minority equal right agendas.

More than trying to sway public opinion. There is certainly some youth indoctrination going on and wholesale demonization of people with opposing veiws.
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25-07-2013, 11:34 PM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
The term "agenda" is used in a negative way, similar to saying someone is a "feminist" or a "militant atheist" or a "new atheist"
They are meant to shame or ridicule people, to shut them down.

Really the gay agenda or feminist movement is not about gay or feminism, it is about equality across the board.
They all just want equality.
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25-07-2013, 11:38 PM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2013 11:44 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 11:22 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  There is certainly some youth indoctrination going on

Prove it. Where exactly, and exactly how do you know that ? And if there is, are you saying straight people do not "indoctrinate" their kids ?

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26-07-2013, 02:26 AM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 11:22 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 11:13 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Yes I know and I would agree that there are people/organizations with an agenda to promote equal rights via changing opinion of society to more favorably look upon gay people.
There are people/organizations who do the same for black people or/and other minority groups.

The key being that the agenda is equal rights, but the method of achieving this is to sway public opinion.

Also, conservative/liberbal/other political ideology agenda's are different to minority equal right agendas.

More than trying to sway public opinion. There is certainly some youth indoctrination going on and wholesale demonization of people with opposing veiws.

So your solution is for humanity to just stop progressing?
So you agree with slavery then? You agree that black folk are second class citizens?

Somewhere a long the road man 'evolved' socially past these beliefs (though if you were to travel in parts of 'Merica it'd be hard to tell...) just the same with many many things throughout history. If you want to talk about politically, then we have evolved past papal influence, we no long have the feudal system, conservatism today is considerably more liberal then conservatism 20-50-200 years ago. etc..
Blacks have equal rights, worker conditions are considerably much better then that of the industrial revolution. Hell, things like welfare are very recent (in human history time period) coming into play in the last 100-200 years or so. 200 years ago if you didn't have a job too bad, today you will be given a small weekly amount to help you get back on your feet.

Why is this? Progress. This is why I don't care about theists because I know that atheism is a natural progress and is thus inevitable. The same with gay rights.

Progress Blow, progress.

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26-07-2013, 02:56 AM
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(25-07-2013 10:48 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 01:58 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  I would laugh but he was responsible (in part) for passing a law that has the death sentence for homosexuality. I think we should stop all aid to any country that has such a law. Hell full on ostracization from the global economy until they join the rest of us in the 21st century.

yeabut, how can you do that when you yourself (the US) have not given all gay's equal rights?
It'd be hypocritical.


I agree to a certain extent and if it were in my power I would eliminate the hypocrisy immediately. However not having 100% across the board equal rights (which is a short term event it is unsustainable and will be fixed sooner rather than later) is far different than having a death sentence on anyone who isn't heterosexual.

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26-07-2013, 02:59 AM (This post was last modified: 26-07-2013 03:07 AM by Heywood Jahblome.)
RE: The Homosexual Agenda
(26-07-2013 02:26 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 11:22 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  More than trying to sway public opinion. There is certainly some youth indoctrination going on and wholesale demonization of people with opposing veiws.

So your solution is for humanity to just stop progressing?
So you agree with slavery then? You agree that black folk are second class citizens?

Somewhere a long the road man 'evolved' socially past these beliefs (though if you were to travel in parts of 'Merica it'd be hard to tell...) just the same with many many things throughout history. If you want to talk about politically, then we have evolved past papal influence, we no long have the feudal system, conservatism today is considerably more liberal then conservatism 20-50-200 years ago. etc..
Blacks have equal rights, worker conditions are considerably much better then that of the industrial revolution. Hell, things like welfare are very recent (in human history time period) coming into play in the last 100-200 years or so. 200 years ago if you didn't have a job too bad, today you will be given a small weekly amount to help you get back on your feet.

Why is this? Progress. This is why I don't care about theists because I know that atheism is a natural progress and is thus inevitable. The same with gay rights.

Progress Blow, progress.

I never said humanity should stop progressing. I never said I agree with slavery. I never said black folk are second class citizens. Your making straw man arguments. I wouldn't mind it so much if your straw man arguments came with a side of your awesome humor.....but it didn't. You let me down muffs. I'm a bit disappointed.

Anyways I haven't expressed any judgments in this thread on whether the homosexual agenda is good or bad for society. I have only claimed that I believe it exists. That its existence is obvious to me by observance of the embedded marketing that is taking place. That it goes beyond embedded marketing and also includes indoctrination of children and wholesale demonization of people with contrary views. These things look like the execution of an agenda to me.

Is it "progress" as you suggest...or "human rights" as Chas suggests, or is it an attempt to brainwash the sheep by elitist who think they know what is best for society?
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