Poll: Who do you support in the 2012 US Presidential election?
Barack Obama - Democratic Party
Mitt Romney - Republican Party
Gary Johnson - Libertarian Party
Jill Stein - Green Party
Virgil Goode - Constitution Party
Andre Barnett - Reform Party USA
Tom Hoefling - America's Party
Rocky Anderson - Justice Party
Stewart Alexander - Socialist Party USA
Merlin Miller - American Third Position Party
Tom Stevens - Objectivist Party
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The OFFICIAL TTA 2012 US Presidential Election Poll
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25-08-2012, 06:38 PM
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I would support Jill Stein, but I see no point in wasting a vote on a party that has no chance at winning, so instead I'm voting for Obama, who I consider the next best thing. I guess it really doesn't matter very much though as Obama is already a sure thing for my state.
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29-08-2012, 07:23 PM
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"Now, ladies and gentlemen, there are Americans who are listening to this speech right now who hasn't always been with you," said Davis. "To those Democrats and independents whose minds are open to argument, listen closely to the Democratic party that will gather in Charlotte and ask yourself if you hear your voice in the clamor. Ask yourself if these Democrats still speak for you.

"When they say, 'We have a duty to grow government even when we cannot afford it,' does it sound like compassion to you or does it sound like recklessness," Davis continued. "When you hear the party that glorified Occupy Wall Street blast success, when you hear them minimize the genius of the men and women who make jobs out of nothing, is that what you teach your children about work?"

"When they tell you America is this unequal place, where the powerful trample on the powerless, does that sound like the country your children or your spouse risked their lives for in Iraq or Afghanistan," Davis continued. "Do you even recognize the America they are talking about?"

"John Kennedy asked us what we can do for America. This Democratic party asks what can government give you," Davis went on, attacking Obama's changes welfare reform's work requirements. He concluded by expressing his hopes that the nation sends Mitt Romney to the White House next year.



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29-08-2012, 08:28 PM
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(29-08-2012 07:23 PM)Jeff Wrote:  "When they tell you America is this unequal place, where the powerful trample on the powerless, does that sound like the country your children or your spouse risked their lives for in Iraq or Afghanistan," Davis continued. "Do you even recognize the America they are talking about?"

LOL! Never seen a purer instance of: Here's this logos that is being talked about by some people about our country. Does that connect to our pathos ideals of the country? NO?? Then it can't possibly be the country I live in... AMERICA!!

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01-09-2012, 08:55 PM
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(17-06-2012 07:03 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  What ya need is a young, charismatic, intelligent liberal who hasn't been in politics for years and years and is passionate and has a fucking backbone and will stick up for what he believes in.

I mean look at Romney, I've said it before, no backbone. He comes into politics very liberal and passionate and now because he has a chance of becoming president he's suddenly a conservative fuckhead, literally giving in and bending over to party pressure.
It's a different mentality. It's that, do what ever it takes to win mentality rather then stand up for what we believe in and if the people rally behind us then great mentality.

One of the things I've never really understood is peoples propensity to call a politician a flip flopper. "Romney was for this, then he was against it, then he was for it again, he can't make up his mind, he's a flip flopper!" A politicians job is to work for the goals and values of his or her constituents. He's not being elected to represent his own ideals, he's being elected to represent MY ideals. Its not a matter of what he believes or when he believed it. Its a matter of whether or not he is representing what I think is important right now. If Romney is for lettings dogs ride on top of the car when you go on vacation and he runs a pole and finds out that the majority of his constituents are against it, if he wants to represent his people he SHOULD change his opinion.
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01-09-2012, 09:11 PM
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90% of the crap is just politicians being politicians.
We do have to decide what to do about the country's finances.
I'm an econ prof and I know the hole we are in is more than just a bumpersticker fix. As much of a social liberal as I am the democrates are just clueless on how an economy works and I'm specifically taking Obama. In business sometimes you just have to replace a guy you like to get the results that you need.
Obama, sorry dude, but you're fired. I wish it would have worked out for you.

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01-09-2012, 09:17 PM
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(01-09-2012 09:11 PM)Thomas Wrote:  90% of the crap is just politicians being politicians.
We do have to decide what to do about the country's finances.
I'm an econ prof and I know the hole we are in is more than just a bumpersticker fix. As much of a social liberal as I am the democrates are just clueless on how an economy works and I'm specifically taking Obama. In business sometimes you just have to replace a guy you like to get the results that you need.
Obama, sorry dude, but you're fired. I wish it would have worked out for you.

Yup, let's bring in the team that supports the policies that wrecked things in the first place. They'll do the right thing.

Really?

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01-09-2012, 09:28 PM
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The Republicans say that businesses are the job creators, then criticize Obama for not creating jobs.

The Republican policies of the past, primarily deregulation and taxation, have largely caused our economic woes, so we should elect them to fix it.

The Republicans deny anthropogenic climate change without having the science to support that.

The Republicans want to include Intelligent Design in the schools or remove evolution entirely, again without the science to support that, based on religion.

The Republicans want to make abortion absolutely illegal, not based on science but based on religious conviction.

Need I continue?

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02-09-2012, 09:38 AM
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(01-09-2012 08:55 PM)SharkByte Wrote:  
(17-06-2012 07:03 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  What ya need is a young, charismatic, intelligent liberal who hasn't been in politics for years and years and is passionate and has a fucking backbone and will stick up for what he believes in.

I mean look at Romney, I've said it before, no backbone. He comes into politics very liberal and passionate and now because he has a chance of becoming president he's suddenly a conservative fuckhead, literally giving in and bending over to party pressure.
It's a different mentality. It's that, do what ever it takes to win mentality rather then stand up for what we believe in and if the people rally behind us then great mentality.

One of the things I've never really understood is peoples propensity to call a politician a flip flopper. "Romney was for this, then he was against it, then he was for it again, he can't make up his mind, he's a flip flopper!" A politicians job is to work for the goals and values of his or her constituents. He's not being elected to represent his own ideals, he's being elected to represent MY ideals. Its not a matter of what he believes or when he believed it. Its a matter of whether or not he is representing what I think is important right now. If Romney is for lettings dogs ride on top of the car when you go on vacation and he runs a pole and finds out that the majority of his constituents are against it, if he wants to represent his people he SHOULD change his opinion.

lolwut?
His opinion doesn't matter?

Allow me to explain how this is SUPPOSE to work.
Candidate A says he supports this that and the other. Those are his personal opinions and those are his parties opinions.
Candidate B says he supports that this and that other thing, which in turn match his parties.

You and I, the voter, then decide that yes I like Candidate A because they share the same opinions on things as me so they get my vote.

That is how it is suppose to work.

Now allow me to explain how it ACTUALLY works.
Candidate A hires researchers to find out what the majority of the voters like and support. Candidate A then changes "his believes" to match this as to appeal to as many people as possible.
Candidate B does the same.

You and I pick A or B.

The problem is when you have the first example you truly have someone who is committed to their opinions. Say for example someone who is pro-gay marriage. If you have a candidate from how it is suppose to work then that person is going to fight for it, they're gonna put their heart and soul into it.
If you have someone from how it actually works however, perhaps they personally are anti-gay marriage, so they're not gonna proactively fight for something they don't actually want.

This is the problem I'm saying. You need those with a spine, those that will say "these are my opinions, deal with it" because they get shit done.
But those people are rarer then white tigers. Today it's all "flip flop" because you have people like say Romney who go for lesser positions first and so say this that and the other because that is what the researchers tell them the people in that particular state like, so he appeals to their wants. But then you have that same person go for something like the presidency, where opinions are on a wider scale and are very different and so he changes his policy to match that.
Romney is a spineless fuck, he doesn't truly believe in what he says and if you elect him shit wont get done. And that's the bottom line.

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04-09-2012, 10:22 AM
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(01-09-2012 09:28 PM)Chas Wrote:  The Republicans say that businesses are the job creators, then criticize Obama for not creating jobs.

The Republican policies of the past, primarily deregulation and taxation, have largely caused our economic woes, so we should elect them to fix it.

The Republicans deny anthropogenic climate change without having the science to support that.

The Republicans want to include Intelligent Design in the schools or remove evolution entirely, again without the science to support that, based on religion.

The Republicans want to make abortion absolutely illegal, not based on science but based on religious conviction.

Need I continue?

Amen, mi amigo.

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