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31-07-2017, 05:39 PM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2017 05:43 PM by Anjele.)
RE: The Pyramids are fake!
Several sites agree that the Egyptians used a concrete like substance well before the Romans. http://www.auburn.edu/academic/architect...meline.htm

Historical Timeline of Concrete

 
12,000,000 BC

 
Reactions between limestone and oil shale during spontaneous combustion occurred in Israel to form a natural deposit of cement compounds.  
 
3000 BC

 
Egyptians used mud mixed with straw to bind dried bricks. Also furthered the discovery of lime and gypsum mortar as a binding agent for building the Pyramids 
 
3000 BC
Used cementitious materials to hold bamboo together in their boats and in the Great Wall. 
 
300 BC
Romans used slaked lime a volcanic ash called pozzuolana, found near Pozzouli by the bay of Naples. They used lime as a cementitious material. Pliny reported a mortar mixture of 1 part lime to 4 parts sand. Vitruvius reported a 2 parts pozzolana to 1 part lime. Animal fat, milk, and blood were used as admixtures  
  
193 BC
of PorticuHouse s Aemelia made of bound stones to form concrete 
 
200 AD
The Pantheon
 
 
After 400 AD
The art of Concrete was lost after the fall of the Roman Empire 
 
1678
Joseph Moxon wrote about a hidden fire in heated lime that  
appears upon the addition of water. 
 
1756
John Smeaton, British Engineer, rediscovered hydraulic cement through repeated testing of mortar in both fresh and salt water 
 
1779
Bry Higgins was issued a patent for hydraulic cement (stucco) for exterior plastering use. 
 
1796

 
James Parker from England patented a natural hydraulic cement by calcining nodules of impure limestone containing clay, called Parker�s Cement or Roman Cement. 
 
1812 -1813
Louis Vicat of France prepared artificial hydraulic lime by calcining synthetic mixtures of limestone and clay. 
 
1818
Maurice St. Leger was issued patents for hydraulic cement. 
1818
Canvass White, American Engineer, found rock deposits in Madison, County, New York, that made hydraulic cement with little processing 
 
1820-1821
John Tickell and Abraham Chambers were issued more hydraulic cement patents. 
 
1822

 
James Frost of England prepared artificial hydraulic lime like Vicat�s and called it British Cement. 
 
1824
Joseph Aspdin, bricklayer and mason in Leeds, England, patented what he called portland cement, since it resembled the stone quarried on the Isle of Portland off the British coast. 
 
1825
Erie Canal created the first great demand for cement in the US
 

1828
I. K. Brunel is credited with the first engineering application of portland cement, which was used to fill a breach in the Thames Tunnel. 
 
1850s
Jean-Louis Lambot was the first to use reinforcing in boats  
 
1854
William B. Wilkinson erected a reinforced concrete servants cottage 
 
1859-1867
Portland cement used in the construction of the London sewer system 
 
1867
Joseph Monier patented a design for reinforces garden tubs, beams and posts 
 
1868
The fist recorded shipment of portland cement to the US 
 
1850-1880
Francois Coignet, a builder in France, responsible for the first widespread use of concrete in buildings 
 
1871
David O. Saylor established the first portland-cement plant in the US in Coplay, PA 
 
1871-1875
William E. Ward builds the first landmark building in reinforced concrete in Port Chester, NY. Designed by Architect Robert Mook 
 
 
1883
Ward delivered a paper on the house to the Society of Mechanical Engineers. 
 
 

1884
Earnest L. Ransom patented a reinforcing system using twisted rods. 
 
1885
F. Ransome patented a slightly tilted horizontal kiln which could be rotated so the material moved gradually form one end to the other 
 
1887

 
Henri Le Chatelier of France established oxide ratios to prepare the proper amount of lime to produce portland cement. He named the components: Alite (tricalcium silicate), Belite (dicalcium silicate), and Celite (tetracalcium aluminoferrite). He proposed that hardening is caused by the formation of crystalline products of the reaction between cement and water. 
 
1889
The first concrete reinforced bridge is built.  
 
1891

 
George Bartholomew placed the first concrete street in the USA in Bellefontaine, OH. which still exists. 
 
1904
Ingalls bldg. using the Ransome system, was the first concrete skyscraper. 
1870s
Francois Hennebique patented the Hennebique system. He was responsible for the widespread acceptance of reinforced concrete. 
 
1902
Thomas Edison was a pioneer in the further development of the rotary kiln. 
 
1903
August Perre makes concrete an acceptable architectural material 
Perre builds 25 bis Rue Franklin and the Theatre Champs Elysee 
 
1904
Ingalls building, probably the beginning of high-rise concrete const. 
 
1916
Portland Cement Association founded 
 
1917
The US Bureau of Standards and the American Society for testing Materials established a standard formula for portland cement 
 
1919
Meis van der Rohe proposes concrete high-rises
 

1922
The tallest concrete building was built � 230 ft., the Medical Arts bldg., Dallas 
 
1922
Notre Dame du Raincy 
 
1927
Eugene Freyssinet develops successful pre-stressed concrete 
 
1930
Eduardo Torroja, designed the first thin shelled roof at Algeciras 
 
1935
Eduardo Torroja, designed the Madrid Hippodrome. 

 
1936
The first major concrete dams, Hoover Dam and Grand Coulee Dam, were built. 

 
1935
Pier Luigi Nervi built the hangers for the Italian Air Force using thin shell construction 
 
1931
Le Corbusier builds Villa Savoye 

 
1936
Frank Lloyd Wright was the one of the first to exploit the cantilever at Fallingwater.
 
1940s
Portland Cement Laboratories perfect air-entrained concrete 
 
1947
FLLW builds on Meis� ideas at the Johnson wax tower 
 
1956
FLLW builds the Guggenheim made of reinforced concrete 
 
1957
Le Corbusier builds Ronchamp 
 
~1958
Felix Candela masters the concrete shell 
 
1958
Felix Candela builds the restaurant at Xochimilco 
 
1958
Executive House Hotel, Chicago, exceeds the Medical Arts record at 371 ft. 
 
1959
Le Corbusier builds La Tourette 
 
1960
Bank of Georgia Building in Atlanta beats Executive House at 391 ft. 
 
1961
Le Corbusier builds the government complex at Chandigara India 
 
1962
Bertrand Goldberg�s twin towers at Marina City marked the  
beginning of the use of reinforced concrete in modern skyscrapers and set the height record to 588 ft. 
 
1964
1000 Lake Shore Drive beats Marina City at 640 ft. 6000 psi concrete in the lower columns was used for the first time. 
 
1964
Place Victoria in Montreal, ht 624 ft. using 6000psi concrete columns 
 
1967
First concrete domed sport structure, the Assembly Hall, was constructed at The University of Illinois, at Urbana-Champaign. 
 
1968
Lake Point Towers, 70 stories, 645 ft. 7500 psi concrete 
 
1970
One Shell Plaza, Houston, ht 714 ft., using 6000 psi concrete 
 
1970s
Fiber reinforcement in concrete was introduced. 
 
1975
Water Tower Place, 859 ft., 9000psi conc. using superplasticizers 
 
1985
Peak shipment of portland cement to the US increased to nearly 3 million barrels 
 
1985
The "highest strength" concrete was used in building the Union Plaza constructed in Seattle, Washington. 
 
1989
Scotia Plaza Building, Toronto, 907 ft.  
 
1990
311S Wacker and Two Prudential Plaza in Chicago sets new height record at 920 ft. 
 
1996
Petronas Twin Towers, 1476 ft. 

http://matse1.matse.illinois.edu/concrete/hist.html

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31-07-2017, 05:41 PM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2017 05:48 PM by Thumpalumpacus.)
RE: The Pyramids are fake!
(31-07-2017 04:09 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  What also struck me is that here in the Near East, all house building is with concrete and they put up houses and hotels in a matter of days.

Having lived in Iran and Saudi Arabia for a total of five years, I can only say that this doesn't comport with my experience at all. Perhaps things have changed in the intervening years, but when I lived there, construction projects were drawn-out affairs.

Most of the buildings being built where I lived in Teheran were brick-and-mortar, not poured concrete -- that includes the four-storey apartment building in which my family lived; it was iron I-beam framework with brickwork for all walls.

When stationed in Saudi, I lived in Eskan Village, which were indeed poured structure, to gather from observation. But in my five months there, I saw several projects advance nary a wink.
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31-07-2017, 05:59 PM
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(31-07-2017 05:37 PM)Vera Wrote:  But, Bucky, dear, he spent 28 years in construction and it seems logical to him. Take that, engineers, scholars and scientists Drinking Beverage

Hmm, cement dust is bad for the lungs. Maybe some made it past the blood-brain barrier...
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31-07-2017, 06:25 PM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2017 06:32 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: The Pyramids are fake!
(31-07-2017 05:37 PM)Vera Wrote:  But, Bucky, dear, he spent 28 years in construction and it seems logical to him. Take that, engineers, scholars and scientists Drinking Beverage

Oh OK.
Then I must be wrong, and all those chisel marks were just for the *fabulous* dramatic decorator rough-hewn look.
Silly me. I should have known. They wore those funny things on their heads. That should have tipped me off.

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31-07-2017, 06:31 PM
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(31-07-2017 06:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 05:37 PM)Vera Wrote:  But, Bucky, dear, he spent 28 years in construction and it seems logical to him. Take that, engineers, scholars and scientists Drinking Beverage

Oh OK.
Then I must be wrong, and all those chisel marks were just for the *fabulous* dramatic decorator rough-hewn look.
Silly me. I should have known. They wore those funny things on their heads.

It's the shabby-chic look. They pruposely made it look all roughed up, like this table.

[Image: shabby_chic_console_table.jpg]

Don't you know anything Bucky. Sheesh!

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31-07-2017, 06:51 PM
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(31-07-2017 06:31 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  It's the shabby-chic look. They pruposely made it look all roughed up, like this table.

And they did it while wearing those fake muddy jeans that came out awhile back.

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31-07-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: The Pyramids are fake!
(31-07-2017 06:31 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 06:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Oh OK.
Then I must be wrong, and all those chisel marks were just for the *fabulous* dramatic decorator rough-hewn look.
Silly me. I should have known. They wore those funny things on their heads.

It's the shabby-chic look. They pruposely made it look all roughed up, like this table.

[Image: shabby_chic_console_table.jpg]

Don't you know anything Bucky. Sheesh!

My wife likes that style. Dodgy We have an old metal cart in the kitchen that has all kinds of chips in the paint, and it's been there so long that it has rusted, here in the California desert. I'd make her a nice shiny Arts and Crafts style cart but she likes that POS. If she dies before I do, there are a couple of 30-yard dumpsters in my future, after I have some antique maven come in, evaluate, and remove all the shit, like the broken doll bed that she wouldn't let me fix because "It's better that way, and will actually lose value if you fix it". Facepalm
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31-07-2017, 07:19 PM
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(31-07-2017 04:39 PM)Born Again Pagan Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 04:26 PM)abaris Wrote:  Oh, boy, is tinfoil on sale?

In any case, the work crews, who built the pyramids and who we know by name, would disagree with OPs theory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egy...s_01.shtml

Maybe you can give us a link to one of them from the work crew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiunu
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31-07-2017, 07:50 PM
RE: The Pyramids are fake!
(31-07-2017 06:51 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 06:31 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  It's the shabby-chic look. They pruposely made it look all roughed up, like this table.

And they did it while wearing those fake muddy jeans that came out awhile back.

I'm a pretty "square" guy, in the '60s vernacular. I drove a '65 Malibu in which I had built up an engine and transmission, when I started college after the Navy, in '77. I wore nice clothes, but the car looked beat. It was fast as hell, topped out at 140. One day I was getting out of my car, and saw a guy with those shredded jeans that were so popular back then, getting out of his Cadillac. He was "wanna-be" poor, or something, I guess. Now that I'm old and retired, I wear work clothes, some splashed with paint. It's pretty amusing when I go see my money people wearing Dickies brand work wear. I get in the elevator, and all the "suits" move away. Shit, I probably have more money than they do. Laugh out load I've never really cared about clothes. But now that I'm retired, I care even less about pretentiousness. Just an observation.
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31-07-2017, 08:11 PM
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(31-07-2017 04:59 PM)Born Again Pagan Wrote:  
(31-07-2017 04:54 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  The Romans INVENTED concrete. The pyramid pre-date the Romans. Just so you know.

Can we assume you know who took out a patent on concrete? The mind set that we know everything about what happened 5000 and more years ago is absurd as believing that Moses actual went up the mountain and came back down with two tablets of stone with the Commandments written on them!
IKR?!
I mean, the Japanese built some powerful structures from bamboo thousands of years ago, so it's safe to assume *all* wooden structures are made from bamboo.
Maple, Elm, Oak, Cedar.... #fakewood. Sad!

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