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12-11-2011, 11:59 PM
 
The Republican Candidates
If Pres. Obama were to lose the upcoming election to a Republican candidate, who would you be the most amiable with? Coming from someone who has, at best, socialist leanings, the thought of a Republican president is a bit painful. However I personally would favor Jon Huntsman, even though he is a Mormon and has a very strong faith he is a very strong secularist, and believes in evolution and global warming. Contrasted to the others running (Perry, Cain, Paul) he seems to be the obvious choice, at least to me. Your thoughts?
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13-11-2011, 08:36 AM
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I watched a little of the debate last night, and much as i hate to say this, Paul was the most persuasive on foreign policy. He came out categorically against torture and for ending the military entanglements. Gingrich looks the most dangerous, Perry seems dumbest, Romney appears the most likely. He lies through his teeth, changes his absolute conviction to correspond with the going trend and sounds plausible doing it - in other words, a successful politician. There is at least a chance that, once in office, he would revert to moderation.

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14-11-2011, 01:43 PM
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Well, I'm thoroughly disgusted with Obama. But if the nominee is Cain, Perry, Gingrich, or Bachman(lol) I'll be voiting for Obama.


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14-11-2011, 06:19 PM
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I haven't followed the election too much, besides what I see on the Daily Show, but I've been a fan of Romney for some time. I'm hoping that his rhetoric is more pandering to the conservatives than actual thought, because I liked his moderate conservatism before.

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30-11-2011, 05:31 AM
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If forced to choose (mainly because I don't believe Obama was born with a spine) the only reasonable choice to me seems to be Paul. His foreign policies actually have thought, they're not the typical right wing "kill'em all" mentality. Though his healthcare reform ideas are a little troublesome to me he still appears to be the only one who has stuck to his guns throughout his political career.
Romney is a joke, he floats around on the winds of today's hot button topics.
Perry is George W. without the intellect.
Bachman has truly earned the nickname "batshit Bachman"
Huntsman just doesn't stand a chance because he's attempting to use logic while running for the republican nomination (that never works out)
Cain didn't know that other countries actually have nuclear weapons - this is the best the right has?

I lean more towards the right (minus the religion) but I just cannot see voting for any of them other than Paul right now, and he has no shot at winning.

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30-11-2011, 12:34 PM
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(30-11-2011 05:31 AM)ProThinking Wrote:  (mainly because I don't believe Obama was born with a spine)

I don't know if I'd say Obama doesn't have a spine, I think it has more to do with the Republicans are much better at selling their product. They've got people convinced that "Real America" is under attack, so they can keep their predominantly white, god-fearing christian constituents in line with one message. On the other hand, Democrats are made up of various smaller groups (Women, Hispanics, African-Americans, the Poor, Academia, etc.) with views held together by very little (sometimes just a common view that the Republican ideas won't work). Each group has their own alternative to the Republican views, so it's harder to get them to unite on one issue.

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30-11-2011, 12:50 PM
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Even though I think Mormon beliefs are whackier than Christian ones, fundamentalist Christians are scarier than Mormons. So Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich, Paul, et al. are not acceptable.

We had Romney as governor here in Massachusetts and he wasn't bad, though he will say whatever it takes to get along. Huntsman doesn't look too bad, either.

Obama is getting a worse rap than he deserves; the Republicans in Congress are blocking any progress on fixing anything just to make him look bad.

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30-11-2011, 05:00 PM
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Ron Paul seems like the only semi-sane candidate, so I would go with him if I had to. To be honest, I don't think the Republicans have a great shot this election with the line-up they have layed out. Bachman? Seriously?
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30-11-2011, 06:05 PM
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Wow, tough question. Cain doesn't seem to know jack all when it comes to politics and policy. Bachman is nuts. Perry is a nitwit.

I think libertarian ideals are rather toxic so I won't be voting for Ron Paul. But it's always nice to see him out there showing people what the "small-government" slogan would really mean. It seems like the republican right isn't so much pro-small-government as it is pro-big social government when it comes to religious ideals. Ron Paul cuts through all of that to say the Government just needs to stay out of it all. I'm just not a fan of what that means for everything else that comes from libertarian ideals (reduction of business regulation, retirement, social safety nets etc.).

Huntsman, maybe from what you all are saying... I'd have to look into that further.

Probably still going to vote Obama, but not because I hope for audacity or change or wtf ever his slogan was (was never why I voted for him anyway)... Dodgy
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30-11-2011, 07:48 PM (This post was last modified: 30-11-2011 07:52 PM by GirlyMan.)
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I'd vote for Huntsman, I wouldn't vote for but could live with Romney. Neither of these guys is much different than Obama. They're all reasonable men. (Obama is obviously hoping it's Gingrich.) The fact that their Mormonism bothers fundy Xtians more than it bugs me I find hilarious. One thing about being an atheist is that I don't discriminate between fairy tales. Wink

(30-11-2011 06:05 PM)kineo Wrote:  I think libertarian ideals are rather toxic so I won't be voting for Ron Paul.

I vote for Ron Paul in the primaries because it warms my heart to be able to vote for a politician who is principled to a fault. But we are already far too socialist a country for his ideals. I wouldn't vote for him in the general.

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