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04-09-2011, 07:29 PM
The Resurrection Means Nothing
The most central tenet of Christianity is that God (through Jesus) died for our sins. First of all, some guy dying a couple of thousand years ago means nothing to me. Second, it's a sham. If Jesus dies and then is resurrected, God has suffered no loss. He hasn't lost Jesus to death, he just had a couple of rough days.
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05-09-2011, 10:16 AM
RE: The Resurrection Means Nothing
And what about the people Jesus allegedly "resurrected," like Lazarus? Assuming the gospel story corresponds to an historical event, what happened to Lazarus afterwards?

Either he died again, which makes his resurrection seem cruel and pointless.

Or else we have to postulate that in 2011, Lazarus in his deathless body walks the earth like a character from Highlander.
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05-09-2011, 10:22 AM
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I like to think Lazarus went on to become Dracula...or George W. Bush...

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05-09-2011, 10:57 AM
RE: The Resurrection Means Nothing
Lazarus got to live long enough to retire from some crap job to support his family, and die again of sepsis from a badly trimmed toenail.

Jesus rose just long enough to make a speech and issue a bunch of instructions before ascending to heaven.

God can't lose: he owns the deck and stacks it any way he wants - like requiring Jesus to be killed to appease him and then blaming the people who carried out his will.

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05-09-2011, 11:48 AM
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The lord works in mysterious and dickish ways.

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05-09-2011, 01:07 PM
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Jesus was a Zombie then?
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05-09-2011, 01:20 PM
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Sure, but only for half an hour. Lazarus pulled 35 years - just like one of us.

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05-09-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: The Resurrection Means Nothing
(05-09-2011 10:16 AM)advancedatheist Wrote:  And what about the people Jesus allegedly "resurrected," like Lazarus? Assuming the gospel story corresponds to an historical event, what happened to Lazarus afterwards?

Either he died again, which makes his resurrection seem cruel and pointless.

Or else we have to postulate that in 2011, Lazarus in his deathless body walks the earth like a character from Highlander.

If heaven is such a utopia, what would be the point of resurrecting someone?
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05-09-2011, 07:28 PM
RE: The Resurrection Means Nothing
(05-09-2011 01:07 PM)Lwio Wrote:  Jesus was a Zombie then?

Not the only one.

The graves broke open, and many of God's people who had died were raised to life. They left the graves and after Jesus rose from death, they went into the Holy City, where many people saw them. [Matthew 27:52-53 Good News Bible]

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06-09-2011, 09:34 AM
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(05-09-2011 05:26 PM)mysticjbyrd Wrote:  If heaven is such a utopia, what would be the point of resurrecting someone?

Why would anyone want to go to "heaven," sight unseen? According to the christian myth, satan saw it first hand, then led a rebellion against god - which sounds like a prison riot or something. Christian apologists attribute the uprising to satan's "pride," but that doesn't mean people in heaven couldn't rebel for other reasons. I ask christians how they know they won't rebel; perhaps their god has destined one of them to become another satan-like figure in the next stage of his Plan, and this poor believer drew the short straw.
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