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29-05-2012, 05:29 AM
The Saudization of God !
God in Islam was a little tolerant as
an Abraham God can be until 1973. In that year, the price of oil increased 10 times.
This increased the income of Saudi Arabia a lot and brought workers from all
Islamic countries to work in the desert kingdom. Those workers were amazed of
the huge difference between their religious practices compared to that of the
Saudies . They thought that the way of their worship was wrong –since Saudi
Arabia is the birth place of Islam. When they went back home, they enforced the
more strict Saudi practice on their different communities. In the last 30 years
the Saudi way spread all over the Muslim world and in the last ten years it reached
Muslim communities in Europe.



The Iranian Revolution of 1979, imposed a more strict religious practice
on the other sect of the Muslims: the shia minority.

So all in all blame Petroleum price !
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29-05-2012, 05:35 AM
RE: The Saudization of God !
(29-05-2012 05:29 AM)Saudi Atheist Wrote:  God in Islam was a little tolerant as
an Abraham God can be until 1973. In that year, the price of oil increased 10 times.
This increased the income of Saudi Arabia a lot and brought workers from all
Islamic countries to work in the desert kingdom. Those workers were amazed of
the huge difference between their religious practices compared to that of the
Saudies . They thought that the way of their worship was wrong –since Saudi
Arabia is the birth place of Islam. When they went back home, they enforced the
more strict Saudi practice on their different communities. In the last 30 years
the Saudi way spread all over the Muslim world and in the last ten years it reached
Muslim communities in Europe.



The Iranian Revolution of 1979, imposed a more strict religious practice
on the other sect of the Muslims: the shia minority.

So all in all blame Petroleum price !


SA, Can you tell me, sir, in general, do folks in your country understand the origins/history of Islam ?

What is wrong with this ---> (which I wrote yesterday).

The Mulsim god Allah is as easily refutable as is the Judeo-Christian god, Yahweh.

Muslims assert that Allah is a later evolution, and indeed the same divine being, (in pre Islamic times), as the god of the other guys, (the Patriarchs, Prophets, and Apostles...the Jewish people, and the Christians). Thus the ONLY issue is the obvious one of continuity. If Allah really IS Yahweh, then "he" is just, if not more ridiculous, than the Yahweh god, (the "God of the Armies", better known to Christians as the "Lord of Hosts").

Yahweh is easily refuted, historically. So the question is, "is Allah a DIFFERENT deity, or a continuity?". While the claim in Islam is that the deity IS a continuity, in fact it isn't. Allah, upon historical examination, proves to be a pre-Islamic deity. The continuity claim is essential if the claim to a "continuous flow" of revelation is to remain intact. Allah, historically, has been proven to be a PRE-ISLAMIC moon god. In fact Mecca was originally built as a shrine to the moon god. The religious claims are shredded by the archaeology, just as happens with the Yahweh claims. Allah, just as Yahweh, had a wife. He was married to the sun goddess, and the stars were the daughters. Just as Yahweh, Allah was not the only god in the house. The popularity of the moon god, began to wane, as astronomers began to predict the moon's cycle, so Arabs began to say that the moon good was the greatest of the gods. Besides the moon god, they also worshiped 359 other gods at the Kabah in Mecca.

The temple of the moon god remained active as a worship site well into the Christian era, and the moon god was worshiped in both North Arabia, and South Arabia in Muhammad's day, and was still the dominant cult. The name of the moon god was "Sin", but it's title was al-ilah, which meant "the deity", (emphasis on "the"), ie meaning this deity was the chief among the gods. The god Il, or Ilah, was a PHASE of the moon god. Allah was a popular name. Muhammad's father and uncle had "Allah", as part of their names. Allah is NEVER defined in the Qur'an. Why ? Because Muhammad was raised in the cult of the moon god, and assumed that everyone already knew who he was. Muhammad just went the extra step, (as the later Jews did), and said he was one of many, then was first of many, then the only.

The claim that Allah IS Yahweh is nonsense. Islam is a moon-god cult, AND even if Allah were Yahweh, since Yahweh is nonsense, so is Allah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZY2eeozdo8

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29-05-2012, 05:48 AM
RE: The Saudization of God !
(29-05-2012 05:35 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(29-05-2012 05:29 AM)Saudi Atheist Wrote:  God in Islam was a little tolerant as
an Abraham God can be until 1973. In that year, the price of oil increased 10 times.
This increased the income of Saudi Arabia a lot and brought workers from all
Islamic countries to work in the desert kingdom. Those workers were amazed of
the huge difference between their religious practices compared to that of the
Saudies . They thought that the way of their worship was wrong –since Saudi
Arabia is the birth place of Islam. When they went back home, they enforced the
more strict Saudi practice on their different communities. In the last 30 years
the Saudi way spread all over the Muslim world and in the last ten years it reached
Muslim communities in Europe.



The Iranian Revolution of 1979, imposed a more strict religious practice
on the other sect of the Muslims: the shia minority.

So all in all blame Petroleum price !


SA, Can you tell me, sir, in general, do folks in your country understand the origins/history of Islam ?

What is wrong with this ---> (which I wrote yesterday).

The Mulsim god Allah is as easily refutable as is the Judeo-Christian god, Yahweh.

Muslims assert that Allah is a later evolution, and indeed the same divine being, (in pre Islamic times), as the god of the other guys, (the Patriarchs, Prophets, and Apostles...the Jewish people, and the Christians). Thus the ONLY issue is the obvious one of continuity. If Allah really IS Yahweh, then "he" is just, if not more ridiculous, than the Yahweh god, (the "God of the Armies", better known to Christians as the "Lord of Hosts").

Yahweh is easily refuted, historically. So the question is, "is Allah a DIFFERENT deity, or a continuity?". While the claim in Islam is that the deity IS a continuity, in fact it isn't. Allah, upon historical examination, proves to be a pre-Islamic deity. The continuity claim is essential if the claim to a "continuous flow" of revelation is to remain intact. Allah, historically, has been proven to be a PRE-ISLAMIC moon god. In fact Mecca was originally built as a shrine to the moon god. The religious claims are shredded by the archaeology, just as happens with the Yahweh claims. Allah, just as Yahweh, had a wife. He was married to the sun goddess, and the stars were the daughters. Just as Yahweh, Allah was not the only god in the house. The popularity of the moon god, began to wane, as astronomers began to predict the moon's cycle, so Arabs began to say that the moon good was the greatest of the gods. Besides the moon god, they also worshiped 359 other gods at the Kabah in Mecca.

The temple of the moon god remained active as a worship site well into the Christian era, and the moon god was worshiped in both North Arabia, and South Arabia in Muhammad's day, and was still the dominant cult. The name of the moon god was "Sin", but it's title was al-ilah, which meant "the deity", (emphasis on "the"), ie meaning this deity was the chief among the gods. The god Il, or Ilah, was a PHASE of the moon god. Allah was a popular name. Muhammad's father and uncle had "Allah", as part of their names. Allah is NEVER defined in the Qur'an. Why ? Because Muhammad was raised in the cult of the moon god, and assumed that everyone already knew who he was. Muhammad just went the extra step, (as the later Jews did), and said he was one of many, then was first of many, then the only.

The claim that Allah IS Yahweh is nonsense. Islam is a moon-god cult, AND even if Allah were Yahweh, since Yahweh is nonsense, so is Allah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZY2eeozdo8
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the word alah means simply : God in the arabic langauge.In my opinion it was just a simple form of Copycats from Abraham down to Mohammad.But is this our subject here?
regards.
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29-05-2012, 06:09 AM
RE: The Saudization of God !
Saudi Atheist Wrote:  God in Islam was a little tolerant as
an Abraham God can be until 1973
. In that year, the price of oil increased 10 times.
This increased the income of Saudi Arabia a lot and brought workers from all
Islamic countries to work in the desert kingdom. Those workers were amazed of
the huge difference between their religious practices compared to that of the
Saudies . They thought that the way of their worship was wrong –since Saudi
Arabia is the birth place of Islam. When they went back home, they enforced the
more strict Saudi practice on their different communities. In the last 30 years
the Saudi way spread all over the Muslim world and in the last ten years it reached
Muslim communities in Europe. The Iranian Revolution of 1979, imposed a more strict religious practice
on the other sect of the Muslims: the shia minority.

the word alah means simply : God in the arabic langauge.In my opinion it was just a simple form of Copycats from Abraham down to Mohammad. But is this our subject here? regards.


I see. Thank you. We have the same probem here.

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