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04-07-2012, 05:48 PM
RE: The TOP 5 places to be a MOM
I knew that #1 was going to be Norway. It's generally one of the best places to live at, because both their education and their health care system are top notch.

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15-07-2012, 04:05 AM
RE: The TOP 5 places to be a MOM
(26-06-2012 01:28 PM)N.E.OhioAtheist Wrote:  
(26-06-2012 01:20 PM)Caveman Wrote:  Even a (low) flat tax rate with not too many deductions and exclusions can help.
A flat tax would only hurt the poor. The rest I agree with. I also think cutting out the loop holes in the tax codes would fix the whole thing.
Hurt the poor? No. Favor the rich? Only compared to the current system.
If there is a flat tax rate (with no loopholes and exceptions) then people are easier inclined to just accept and pay it, everyone pays the same share. And if that is the case the rate doesn't have to be too high.

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15-07-2012, 05:24 AM
RE: The TOP 5 places to be a MOM
(15-07-2012 04:05 AM)Caveman Wrote:  
(26-06-2012 01:28 PM)N.E.OhioAtheist Wrote:  A flat tax would only hurt the poor. The rest I agree with. I also think cutting out the loop holes in the tax codes would fix the whole thing.
Hurt the poor? No. Favor the rich? Only compared to the current system.
If there is a flat tax rate (with no loopholes and exceptions) then people are easier inclined to just accept and pay it, everyone pays the same share. And if that is the case the rate doesn't have to be too high.
How low will you make the rate? How low can you make it and still be able to fund the military, council housing, medical care, and child care. Or do you want to cut those out too?
Shall we say 25%? For the sake of argument?
By cutting the taxes of the rich to a fixed 25%, you're throwing the poor and average income families under the bus. The poor can't pay the 25%. They can't pay it now, and if they have to pay it they're losing pretty much all their spending power and will be out in the street. Even an average family would take a big hit with an increased tax rate. The only people who benefit from this are the rich. With a flat rate, they're the ones getting the tax cut. For someone making 10M a year, that's a 1M dollar tax cut.
Tell me again how it doesn't favour the rich.

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15-07-2012, 04:32 PM
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Socialist systems drain the majority of the government's assets, something the U.S government cannot currently afford right now. You can look at any graphs to see that anything resembling socialist destroys the government's budget, such as Social Security and Welfare. That is something that the current European countries are struggling with right now, and it will only get worse as the population becomes an inverted pyramid. I suggest actually studying the problems of the European economic and government systems before you spout your miserable nonsense. This is the second thread which I, a European, have contradicted you.

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15-07-2012, 04:43 PM
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(15-07-2012 04:32 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Socialist systems drain the majority of the government's assets, something the U.S government cannot currently afford right now. You can look at any graphs to see that anything resembling socialist destroys the government's budget, such as Social Security and Welfare. That is something that the current European countries are struggling with right now, and it will only get worse as the population becomes an inverted pyramid. I suggest actually studying the problems of the European economic and government systems before you spout your miserable nonsense. This is the second thread which I, a European, have contradicted you.

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Over 30% of the funding of the budget is borrowed. I would maintain that is the real killer.

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15-07-2012, 06:10 PM
RE: The TOP 5 places to be a MOM
(15-07-2012 04:43 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(15-07-2012 04:32 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Socialist systems drain the majority of the government's assets, something the U.S government cannot currently afford right now. You can look at any graphs to see that anything resembling socialist destroys the government's budget, such as Social Security and Welfare. That is something that the current European countries are struggling with right now, and it will only get worse as the population becomes an inverted pyramid. I suggest actually studying the problems of the European economic and government systems before you spout your miserable nonsense. This is the second thread which I, a European, have contradicted you.

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Over 30% of the funding of the budget is borrowed. I would maintain that is the real killer.
Evidence enough that the U.S cannot afford to switch to Socialist until it can get its budget in line. Its enormous military does not help much.

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24-07-2012, 08:37 AM
RE: The TOP 5 places to be a MOM
First of all I wonder why everyone focuses solely on the mothers... what about the support systems in place for the fathers?

As a Swede I'd say we'd be pretty high on the list as we have 480 days of parental leave, 60 of these days are locked to the mother and 60 to the father. There's a monetary bonus if you split the days equally and use 240 each.

There's some small print as well... these 480 days gives you 80% of your salary (up to a certain amount) if you take 7 days a week, which you don't have to. I became a father almost 4 months ago (which incidentally is a reason I havent posted that much here :-)) and my gf is presently only using the parental leave 5 days a week as will I when it's my turn to stay at home...

Secondly, Logica Humano: what are your grounds for saying that "Socialist systems drain the majority of the government's assets[...] You can look at any graphs to see that anything resembling socialist destroys the government's budget, such as Social Security and Welfare."

In Sweden I'd say it's the current right-wing governments policies of selling out mutually owned companies for cheap prices and their cutting of our welfare systems that is the problem. We still have quite a strong economy though, especially compared to a lot of other European countries.

As for the economic problems in Europe there has been a lot of corruption in Greece, a housing bubble in Spain etc etc, not to mention the Euro that was somehow supposed to work for all these countries with very different conditions... I'm very happy we never joined the Euro... we still have politicians that want us to join though...

Well, that was a longer rant than I was planning... as usual :-)

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